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Euro 2008: Portugal v Germany
Your pre and post match verdict
As the business end of the Euro 2008 tournament approaches, Portugal are now preparing for their quarter-final match against Germany.
Will Portugal make it to the semi-finals for the third major tournament running? Should Scolari revert to the same starting XI that impressed in the first two matches? Who are the German dangermen?
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03/07/2008 18:18
,
43 goals, league title and a champions league title. No he's not the best player this year.....
03/07/2008 16:35
Reports out of Portugal are that the FPF are set to announce the hiring of Carlos Queiroz.
bad move for the FPF, this hiring will achieve nothing. We all know that Qeiroz coaching stregths are attacking & possession football, we can already doo that with the best teams in europe. Why are we hiring a coach that will teach us something we are already one of the best at, it makes no sense, i guess its FPF policy though, spectacle over everything. We need to hire an Italian coach that has a track record of coaching tactically defensive teams AND THATS IT, no brazilians, portuguese etc....Portugal will not qualify for the WC20
BTW RONALDO IS NOT THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD, NOT BY A LONG SHOT, THAT HONOR BELONGS TO PLAYERS SUCH AS CANNAVARO, BALLACK, LAMPARD, KAKA, PIRLO, ....RONALDO IS ONLY THE MOST TALENTED PLAYER IN THE WORLD, NOT THE BEST.
03/07/2008 14:48
It's official..
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=761671
Time to look towards the future and forget about the past. It is time for Portugal to have a dominant defense and dangerous offense that will surely make them a dangerous team!
FORCA PORTUGAL!!
02/07/2008 16:39
Overated, wow thats the first time I heard a guy that scores 43 goals and is about to be named Player of the Year is called overated.
Just because Portugal didn't advance in the tournament doesn't mean the guy is overated. Scolari did the same sort of cr*p with his annoucement to Chelsea and also commented on Ronaldo to leave to Real Madrid....
27/06/2008 14:18
Ronaldo is a disgrace to Portugal.
Hes immature and wont stop his stupid rumours about the transfer and after the euros he said he would make his desicion and where is this desicion???
Ronaldo doesn't deserve to be treated so king like!
he only cares about himself i hate that!
I hope Ronaldo stays with Man U because i want to see him on the bench the whole season and give a player who deserves the spot more then him and thats Nani!
He is OVERRATED!
27/06/2008 03:35
This reaction will be a bit delayed, because I just watched the German Portugal game for a second time. However that push by ballack was absolutely ridiculous. I thought it was nothing more than a nudge but it was two hands to the back of ferriera that's horseshit. Worst yet I absolutely despise Ballack I think he's a dirty player and I'll actually be cheering for Spain come sunday.
26/06/2008 23:26
marc0de, I checked the article and many of the sentiments on this post mentioned.
It is very difficult being a coach and balancing between trying to get a last good run from older players, keeping the same 11, balancing between youth and experience, and looking at matching up best against your foe.
I know Scolari had some limited options due to the cards dealt him but he still had some options to better balance the team against the physical and athletic Germans.
We didn't match up well for most of the 1st half. I think whoever is the next coach needs to balance the team so you don't get too many players of the same ilk and you have the proper balance. I watch alot of basketball and this is an imperfect comparison but you can't have too many of the same ilk in basketball, it will cost you. As an example if Moutinho is a future midfield player you need to have a more physical def mid and a more creative winger who can be physical and has some flair(e.g. Nani over Simao).
I really feel this Euro 2008 team is a transitional team until the next wave of players is ready. I think it is time to play more young guys in the WC qual and get more balance on the field. A lot has to do with who you are playing against but a coach can not be myopic and get stubborn on a starting 11.
26/06/2008 21:32
hi everyone
an interesting article:
http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=744414
26/06/2008 18:33
Melo,
I appreciate and understand your comments.
There has not be exorbitant comments on the LB and young players. At various points people have posted messages regarding the Germany game, LB, and young players. As these posts come it, it is natural for further comments.
This is the only forum where I post messages because due to its friendly nature and time constraints. There are other soccer sites where people are antagonist and nasty. This is a haven and refuge for us to show our passion and cope with the diasspointments. Like most we are moving forward and focusing on the future but it is not inappropriate to drop comments on the past.
We have all talked about the need for developing young players, better tactics, discpline, and defending set pices as areas for improvement in the future.
One of the areas you articulate well is the need for more athletic type players on the national team. Portuguese soccer playes can be well conditioned but there is a athletic element missing in our teams and I see some promise with some of our young players. We need a blend of tall and short players who are athletic. Growing up in North America, we always learned that the more activities and sports you participated in in, it made you a better player for your sport of choice. We need more athletic soccer players regardless of size.
26/06/2008 16:58
Ok boys enough of the who will be a star and who will fill in the LB."We had, we lived, we lost the best opportunity we ever had.All we have to do now is hope the new coach has what all of us are hoping for, is to select players who have the same chemistry and drive to win it and not neccesarly the best players.We need big strong guys like Meira,Bruno Alves,Pepe etc.Hopefully we stay away from little guys like Moutinho these guys are weak.The only small guy I ever liked was Joao Pinto,he was one tough guy but with a short fuse.
26/06/2008 15:21
Dear danny,
not all great players come over in a day. Portugal has great talent. Antunes is going to be a star, Da Costa is going to be a great solid defender and Vieirinha is going to be a great player on the wing too.
26/06/2008 14:29
David, perfectly stated on Sergio C and Nuno V.
Sergio C peaked in the early 2000s and his career took a rapid decline where he bounced around and ended up in Belgium. I believe he has had some issues with his attitude at times. I'm not sure of what happened for a promising player to take a deep decline in form.
I agree on Nuno V, he has been injured at Everton and was not in form. Ribiero from what I have observed is not a solution. The Germans would have destroyed Ribiero. As much as I don't like Caneira, I would have preferred Caneira to Ribeiro on the national team.
In my opinion this LB situation plus declining GK and def mid really unsettled Portugal. Despite that they were close to beating Germany if they had finished in front of the goal on some crosses. A few minor adjustments and development of younger players gives us hope.
26/06/2008 13:58
Matt,
Conceicao? I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I'm going to assume that you're not. The reason he was never selected by Scolari was that he fell out at Inter and seldom got a game in. Then he tore up the Belgium league, but that's no more impressive than tearing up the MLS. Finally, he wasn't a regular on his club team this year, so Scolari would have been insane to pick him for this squad. I was a big fan of his back in the day, but he never really struck me as much of a leader.
As for Nuno, I really thought he was great at WC 06 and would have liked to have him in the squad, but he had a tough year at Everton with injuries and was never a regular starter. I'm not even sure if he's healthy. Still, unless he was hurt, I would have preferred him to Ribeiro.
26/06/2008 02:33
Danny, regarding your statement on the LB situation and Paulo Ferreira.
A few points of clarification:
1) The reason Paul F failed is because he is an average defender It had nothing to do with the side he played on. Read some of the previous posts and watch EPL.
2) The qualities of a good defender are:
- Tackling
- Speed/quickness (ability to recover)
- Marking
- Athletic
- reading the game
- ability to counterattack
- pass
- composure
On a scale of 1-5, Paul F is a 3. He is probably the 5th best right back (Bos, Miguel, Joao P, and Nelson) in Portugal. He is a nice low profile team guy but he needs to be surrounded with other strong players. Read my "Axis of Doom". You team him up with Petit (another whipping boy) and Ricardo resulting in high probability for failure. I have coached youth soccer and I'm nobody but I do understand the concept of weak players playing next to each and not having good balance between strong and weak. Portugal went into the games with 3 weak links in defense. The Germans with their efficiency, athletic abilities, and power over powered us.
One solution would have been to play Miguel on the LB even though Miguel got a bit fat and off field habits have not been the best he looked like he was in better form. Maybe Miguel needs to be held accountable for letting his form down allowing Paul F get the LB position.
26/06/2008 01:46
One thing i wanna see happen when we get are new coach is for him to call Sergio Conciecao!
We lack a leader and Sergio Conciecao is the guy!
He should of never been left out of the squad from the beginning that just proves that Scolari doesn't no how to pick the right players for major tournaments.
The same goes for Vitor Baia ill never forget that when Scolari ignored him in 2006!
I remember when Scolari chose Deco over Rui Costa in 2004!What a mistake because Rui Costa could of made all the difference and he did verse England! and still Scolari didn't put him in the starting line up ,its favouritism Scolari chooses instead of good players! or is it because Deco was Brazilian??? all i no is Deco played horribly in 2004 he should of been replaced.
Ricardo should of been back up and Vitor Baia the starter he would of been the best for us!
Vitor was a world class keeper he never made foolish mistakes like coming of his line for crosses and missing the catch or punch!
Putting Pauleta as the starter in 2004 and 2006 was a MAJOR mistake. why would he do that if he only managed to score once in 2 tourny's???
What about leaving Nuno Valente out of the squad for Euro 2008???
Then he had trouble finding the right Left Back HELLO! NUNO IS WAITING.
There was so much things we could of fixed but now its to late because one foolish man didn't notice his mistakes!
25/06/2008 21:37
Danny you forgot your happy pills.. we have the best record in the last four Euros and we suck, hate to see what you say about the rest.
How many of the worlds top youth players do you see starting for any major squad? Development just doesn't happen overnight. Most of those players chased contracts abroad, only to sit on the bench, with other u20 players or u21's, they would've all been smarter staying and playing in Portugal where they would get a weekly run-out..
Here is a question though: How many 18-20 year old starters do you see playing at major clubs?
Take the blinders off for a second and look around, tell us what you see.
25/06/2008 19:48
I had heard that Roma was very positive on Antunes, but wanted to take their time with him. However, they just signed John Arne Risse so I don't think that bodes well for his prospects next year.
If they don't loan him out, it looks like we're going to have to look elsewhere for a LB for WC qualifying. I think Miguel would be an improvement over Ferreira if he's healthy. Either that or just stick Veloso back there so we at least have a natural left footed player.
25/06/2008 18:13
danny is right, we need a left back
25/06/2008 18:01
Portugal sucks! Their up and comers are garbage... vieirinha is always on the leixoes bench, antunes never plays in roma, Ricardo vaz te is a lost dog in bolton... they want to get rid of him... manuel da costa hasnt played one game for florentina.... You guys blame paulo ferreira... HEllo paulo ferreira isnt a left back, hes a right back. Its not paulos fault that scolari put him there because there arent any good left backs in portugal. Ricardo is a piece of garbage, quim is even worse.
25/06/2008 15:17
i wouldnt mind having Figo in as a coach, but wait a little bit while longer. As people saying that our midfield is bad let me say this: Ricardo is shit..we all know that. That worthless little bitch shouldv'e got out of his little area and should have done something. Petit is done, Veloso steps in good. On Defense, Meira def. should of played. And on the attacking part of the field, Postiga did pretty good in that game. He kept it in for us. Well, now we have to look for fifa 2010. Some guys that would look to step up would be: Manuel Fernandes, Veirinha, Ricardo Vaz Te, Manuel Da Costa, Antunes. I hope the coach would be Zico. He knows the talent that they have and he doesnt want to waste it like Scolari did
25/06/2008 15:00
hire LIPPI
but it wouldnt surprise me if they did hire figo, it would be in line with portuguese policy, spectacle over everything else
25/06/2008 13:12
Tony,
Thanks for the link. I can't say I'm shocked when you look at the relative coaching success of young former players like Van Basten and Klinsman. The advantage is that they have the respect of the younger players, but they lack tactical experience and you risk them being too close to the existing players.
I think this strategy works with someone like Roy Keane who was tough and (mostly) disciplined and could control his team. However, I don't see it working with Figo.
This team needs a firm coach who can instill discipline and Figo doesn't strike me as being able to do that. I think that would take us back to the days of Coelho and Oliviera. While I didn't always agree with Scolari, he was a huge step in the right direction and I'd prefer to see them stay on that path. I would kill for Hiddink, but I don't see that happening...
25/06/2008 05:17
FIGO as coach? One story out on the Web:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun24h.html
Not sure if he is ready for this or it would make sense? Someone who thinks like a player? I'm sure there is sentiment but I'm not sure it would work. We need discpline, strong tactics, and defending. What do you guys think?
25/06/2008 00:56
You bring up some excellent points Tony, I am concerned by the types of players that they think is a defensive mid in Portugal. They all tend to be offensive players who run up field to hammer a shot, or are right up there trying to score players such as Veloso, Fernandes, Tiago, Merieles are all players that for me should be sloted behind the Attacking Mid which is currently Deco. I feel we need someone that is not going to stray and is defensively sound. Even if we used one of our CB's in that position I would be happy, because it will not only protect us in the air but with Bos & Mig running up field we need someone that stays at home. Valente used to slide in and always stay back, and provided us with amazing defensive coverage, we need a few of those types to solidify the back so that the forwards can do their magic.
I would love to see Veloso slid a bit further up behind Moutinho or Deco, and one of the CB's say Alves used to defend the back four.
24/06/2008 23:40
Orlandomac, I see your points on Simao and don't disagree with your thoughts on Simao. I consider Simao a stop gap measure until Nani matures and had no issue with Scolari starting Simao in the Euro 2008. I saw the tactical logic and I didn't mean to be too harsh on Simao. Nani too would offer good defensive coverage as in games at ManU he battles back on defense to help cover. My main frustation is with my "Axis of Doom", the 2 field players were outmatched. Not to dwell on what is done but I made some earlier comments that in previous tournaments the 2 field players didn't start why in 2008? My one fear for our great nation is the quality of depth as we can become fragile if one of our promising players doesn't mature. LB and Def Mid will be key positons for our future and are the positions that we need to match up better against our foes.
Goalkeeper is another obvious position that we all know about. Hopefully we can find a strong axis at GK, Def Mid, and LB.
Anyway, I'm anxious to see who we chose to be the coach and what players we chose for WC 2010 qual.
24/06/2008 23:07
WOW Excellent comments all around from Dave, Melo, Tony etc
Tony I will argue Simao's case because he is a selfless player, who tactically is probably the best all-around player we have. I too didn't have him in my starting squad, but I could see why Scolari valued him. He is a Rugby type player that gains field placement, he isn't going to beat any elite defender for pace, but he will gain field possession especially in the final third & get many throw-ins & corners maintaining pressure, also he is a great passer and covers back on defence considering Ferreira was on his side he was back way too many times. CR has a wicked shot to the right free kick, Simao can curl to the right devastatingly, as witnessed in the Georgia game. That said he had his worst game against the German's & shouldve been substituted early.
As Melo stated eloquently that was Scolari's fault.
Dave I too criticized CR for evrything you stated, but he has been tackled hard all year, being a Man U fan I watched almost every game. The Refs have been teaching him a lesson, & some of the ones that they have allowed were atrocious, but at the same time he has to learn the lesson. Soon he will be known for getting hit & like a juggernaut pounding forward to success, I think his play in this tournament was testament to where he is headed, I'll remind you he is only 23, Figo didn't learn till 30.
Ramos I agree that the English league is the best place for any of our players, but it is not all that bad.
24/06/2008 22:27
Back on Euro 2008 to follow up on a few comments. Coming in there was 5 positions of great debate and concern:
1) Striker
Nuno Gomes played with honor and held his own. Even Postiga played decent. These players/position did okay, not the reason we lost.
2) Winger
Simao didn't play well enough to help our cause.
3) Axis of Doom
Despite all the pleas and concerns on the Web site from knowlegeable fans, Scolari played Petit, Ferreira, and Ricardo. I'll call them the "Axis of Doom" and true to their name, they doomed our fate with their display. Ricardo was going to play regardless if Quim was healthy or not. The other 2 should have sat as they didn't match up well against the Germans plus their previous display didn't merit playing. Scolari's selection of this trio or 2 out of 3 resulted in severe punishment and doomed the team's fate.
4 out of 5 starters who we had concerns about didn't come thru resulting in Portugal being knocked out. You can't win at this level when 4 out of 11 positions perform so poorly.
Sports including soccer has a element of match ups where certain players don't play well against certain teams due to the systems or players they are up against. The players who failed had not played well in past games and didn't match up well against the German team. As a coach you have to assess this and make selections based on match ups.
24/06/2008 16:49
Listening to those English commentators over the years saying the tactition the world cup coach Scolari the who's who of coaching just tells you that 90% of people talk out of their asses and go with the flow when teams win.A good coach has to be a good pool player always playing for the next shot.Nuno Gomes can score against Germany,Pauleta can't score against france,Figo can't score in the last 10 minutes.A coach has to know who is hot or who is afraid, who is playing for a new contract (simao&deco) or country.Lippi had changed his lineup each game during the world cup.I'm not saying Lippi would be good for Portugal in fact I think he would be a disaster.The next coach has to be loved from the Portugese people right from the get go or else if he isn't and knowing the Federation will keep him on too long until its too late.Psycology is the strongest player on any team and if the coach feels he is loved then who knows the cup could be ours.
24/06/2008 13:33
Saying on the tragedy again;
Yep, from the EURO warm up matches to the bitter end of the QuarterFinal, the weakling was Paulo Ferreira. Accounting back on the QuarterFinal, if that wasn't for him, we would have sailed into the Semis proudly, but to no avail due to poor performance.
The same thing goes to Ricardo. If he was opening his eyes when Klose and Ballack was heading the ball to the net, he could have stopped one or two. He was no where opening his eyes, I think this is what we get after all those experience in the field.
Seeing all the long range strikes being wasted by Raul Meireles and Petit, if Maniche was there, he could have cracked one or two surely.
Ronaldo and Gomes gave their best to make a comeback, but due to lack of concentration in the set piece strategy, this is what get we get.
Spain > Winner
24/06/2008 03:20
Its funny that Ruud wants ronaldo in Real because there was rumours that the two didn't get along at all in manchester. Ruud was constantly complaining that ronaldo wouldn't get the ball into the box fast enough for him. in the end this was the main reason ruud was transferred away. i think in the end if ronaldo were to go to Real he'll probably be transfered away if not immediately then eventually. also I think Nani will get playing time regardless of Ronaldo being there or not, Giggs is old and park surely isn't as good as Nani. my personal opinion is a move by Ronaldo to real could very well ruin his career not help it as everyone else is saying. Look at the long list of players that have gone there over the last few years that have failed miserably. Owen, baptista, Robben, woodgate, robinho, cassano. Now I do realize these players don't have half the talent ronaldo has but it should still be concerning to know that these player who were highly touted prior to going there all failed miserably or are failing.
24/06/2008 02:27
Orlando,
I'm not implying that the transfer saga affected his play or the teams. I was fine with his on-field performances throughout the Euro. I also recognize that he is being put in a very difficult position by RM and, while he could possibly handle it better, he's doing what he feels he needs to do. Finally, I agree that his leaving will give Nani the chance to shine at UTD and I expect that he will do just fine in Madrid.
The problem I have with him is that he seems to be getting increasingly self-centered. No one disputes how hard he works, yet I've heard rumors that his Portugal teammates are getting fed up with his antics. I just want him to play hard and not be a prima donna. I don't want to see him through his hands up in the air when he doesn't get a call. You're correct in saying that he didn't do that in the Euro, but he was doing it as recently as the Wigan game. That's the kind of stuff I want him to cut out. He's got it in him to be the greatest, but he will have to be a team player on and off the field for that to happen.
24/06/2008 01:49
Dave I appreciate your sentiments but to be honest I don't give a crap about the club stuff. It has nothing to do with the tournament and didn't affect his play, you are confusing the two. I am a Man U fan and I want him to go tired of hearing the I want to go to Real, let him go for Portugal it is a bonus because Nani will get fulltime training and he needs it.
CR has matured and who says he won't improve going to Real, they have a great coach there at the moment, and he will link up with Van Nistelrooj again. You have to appreciate how the media twists every word the most popular player in the world says, the tabloids are in business to do it. Did you forget Princess Diana's tragedy? We are talking about corporations that pay anything for a headline, and thousands of media all with different languages conducting interviews and translations.
It is a huge business and if Ronaldo wants to go he will because of the Bosman ruling, no European club will provoke the courts into making a decision. Let us not forget that transfer fees are a form of slavery. You telling me Man U created CR's talent, or Sporting for that matter, NO! He developed it himself and they polished it, so don't feel too sorry for these huge conglomerates who seek fortunes by owning a players rights this is not a sport.
You are just being offended by headlines, posturing, spin doctors, managers looking to stay in the medias attention (for free), it is all a game so that profits can be made by the rich.
24/06/2008 00:42
Orlandomac, good points on CR and usually you and I think alike on most issues. I'm not in disagreement with you and I posted there are postives which were demonstrated and well articulated by you but I believe opportunities for improvement.
- I'd like to see CR continue to develop in the leadership qualities. I named some American sports heros in an earlier post but in soccer we can see how much of a impact Ballack has on Germany. I think CR can learn from Ballack.
- I know CR is the Jerry Rice of soccer with his workout regiment but he needs to make the other players better. That is a quality of a leader.
- Take more ownership for what happens on the field. He should have been marking Ballack on the 3rd goal and not the inept Paulo F. As a leader, I expect for him to challenge (f2f) our adversaries by marking on set pieces given he is a taller player.
I have mixed feelings about his going to Real Madrid. From a global marketing given the world speaks English, watches EPL (Asia market), CR will be bigger if he stays at ManU plus become a legend and myth like figure.
- If he goes to Spain, I think his game will develop as you know Spain is a skills league and it will improve vision, skills, and become more of a no 10 player. With his all around game unmatch by any player, once he adds a bit of a no 10 game, he'll be better and won't be taken out of games.
24/06/2008 00:26
Sorry, didn't post my name on that last one...
24/06/2008 00:25
Orlando,
Your points are well taken that he did show maturity on the field (for the most part), but he hasn't shown enough off of it. On the contrary, he seems to be regressing.
I don't expect CR to score a ton of goals and I was fine with his on-field performance, but this team needs to develop a winning attitude and he is the key to that. If he leads, others will follow.
24/06/2008 00:11
Guys I think you are being very hard on CR. I myself have been his harshest critic but can admit when he has grown.
This tournament he didn't do it all on his own & made some great timely passes. For me he had a great tournament & demonstrated leadership with a team game which his teammates followed. I can't remember seeing him dive, he didn't whine at the refs, & conducted himself admirably considering he was being tackled harshly with few calls (paying for his earlier penchant for diving). Considering he was triple marked all tournament he was unfortunate not to score more as he had some great opportunities. I thought this tournament was a coming out for the new Ronaldo.
Now I can appreciate all you gentlemen were thinking he'd score 40 gls but that just wasn't going to happen with the way other teams closed him down with man power, besides he had an injured foot throughtout.
In the future I think CR should pass more & get on the end of the balls to finish as he did, same style as you see the Russian wingers taking apart other teams. I think with Nani on the other side defenses will be spread apart, and he will light it up by getting on the end of balls.
Make no mistake this team was much improved over the WC squad. If not for Scolari's tactical ineptitude this team wouldve won the whole thing, no question. So to trash the main reason for their improvement is just wrong. CR was stellar & if the teamwork continues & the mgr fields the right team we will prosper.
24/06/2008 00:11
Tony,
Great idea on the CR thread. Someone should set this up. For those who think I'm hating on CR, I've been a huge supporter of his and defended him for years, but his antics have got to stop. He thinks he is more important than the team. He needs to learn to be a leader. Some of the things he does are inexcusable...did anyone notice Nuno having to grab him at one point to drag him into the team goal celebration against he czech republic....could anyone imagine Zidane doing something like that?
And this transfer saga is just ridiculous. I think he would be better of at UTD for a few more years, but if he wants to leave, that's his perogative. However, dragging it out in the manner that he has and making conflicting comments is inexcusable. If you want out, say it like a man.
23/06/2008 21:56
Me (whoever you are), understand your point and the primary development should be done at the club level but the national coach needs to refine the talent and complement the development. In my opinion it is not that black and white. If we the coach doesn't help in that development than we are back to having some of the scraps mentioned previously who were selections for Euro 08 and cost us badly.
Lippi is a good candidate and I think the FPF is being myopic if Portuguese speaking is a requirement. I can't disagree with that point.
23/06/2008 21:40
i disagree that a new coach has to develop young players , that should be done at club level, the players comming into the seleccao should only be taught tactics, and thats it
23/06/2008 21:38
Pekerman, Queiroz, Zico, etc, etc. = bullshit
If you want someone who will make a real difference, there is only one man, his name is LIPPI.
I cant figure why Madail has said that the new coach has to speak portuguese?????? (i could nt give a rats ass if he was a mute) he has narrowed his talent pool & taken some of the best coaches in the world out of the running. But thats is guess is portuguese policy.
23/06/2008 21:00
Very astute comments on the coaching possibility Pekerman. I saw this last night on the Web and thought a very interesting candidate. I don't know much about him other than what has been already stated as he seems to be a youth coaching guru but in 2006 WC Argentina was knocked out by the Germans on PKs. I don't think you can hold that against him. I believe he had support to stay on as coach after the WC but decided to resign.
I'm becoming more convinced we don't need a Portuguese coach except for Mourinho as they will try to appease the immature CR and Quar.
We need a coach who can develop the new players that will take the place of the weak generation (e.g. Petit, Simao, Ferreira) between Figo (golden gen) and CR. It was this weak gen that cost us plus inexcusable defending. The next coach needs to develop the younger players mentioned ASAP on this post and enable a strong squad for the next 8-10 years.
Job requirements summary:
1) No Portuguese coach (Brazilian okay)
2) Develop youth players
3) Sound tactics
4) Defend (command this) set pieces.
At some point we need to start a post on CR as I have a CR manifesto prepared. There are some good points and some opportunities for improvement. Living in America I have seen great sports leaders like Joe Montana, Magic Johnson, and Michael Jordan. CR needs to take lessons from these guys.
23/06/2008 20:41
My thoughts:
- We need to have another starting goalie. It really seems like Ricardo doesn't know when to come out and challenge a cross or stay back. He has cost us dearly and I'm hoping for someone else to emerge as our starting goalie.
- Simao should not be starting ahead of Nani. I think he thinks he's better than he really is .. just my opinion of course, but I think Nani has more to offer and creates more.
- Anyone hating on C.Ronaldo is out of their mind .. enough said.
- As much as I respect Scolari, I'm glad he's gone. I just hope the right decision is made for the next coach. I still believe there could have been someone better than Ferreira playing LB.
- That 3rd goal by Germany was pure BS
- Moutinho looked good as did Deco, Ronaldo, Carvalho and Pepe.
On to the World Cup qualifying. Sweden and Denmark should provide a legit challenge to head up the group.
23/06/2008 20:41
Um, I don't think I'm sold on Pekerman (gotta love that last name). To be able to coach at the youth level is one thing, but he really hasn't done it at the senior level. Yes, he did a QF placing at the 2006 WC, but his team was stacked and can be argued that he didn't do enough. Besides, he hasn't really managed any other clubs. He's like Hugo Tocalli, great at youth levels; Pekerman is actually better, but has failed to translate that at a higher level. The psyche of an 18 or 19 year old is much different than that of a team with everyone of all ages and egos.
I prefer someone European based or who has had quite a bit of exposure to the European game.
23/06/2008 20:39
Orlandomac - Agree with all of your comments about Pekerman. I do think it's crucial that Portugal bring in a foreign manager who won't indulge Ronaldo. The only Portuguese who could do this is Mourinho, but he's obviously not an option. I'm concerned about the Queiroz rumors for this exact reason.
This team needs a strict coach who can instill discipline at the back (especially on set pieces) and not be afraid to make tough decisions. They will need to have the confidence (and be empowered by the fpf) to be tough with Ronaldo and Quaresma - both of whom need to grow up and be the role models for this squad.
I'd like to see the next coach take the armband from Ronaldo unless he can earn it by being a true leader and team player. He needs to learn a harsh lesson that this is a team sport.
This team will have a great opportunity over the next 6-8 years and let's not waste it!
23/06/2008 19:16
Hey guys not sure if you read but Jose Pekerman the Argentinian has been linked with the National Team.
I know he won 3 youth World Cups & took Argentina to a quarters in the WC but haven't seen enough of him to comment on his exact style.
Although as a group an Argentinian Coach wouldn't be a bad thing as they tend to be more tactical.
Because I am not totally familiar with him it makes it hard to comment. Not sure if I should be happy or not. I know everyone thinks of the big names but for most of those they are not possible because they are tied up or are clearly looking in another direction.
Let us wait to see what the selection is as I am sure more news will filter through.
Some of the good points are that he is used to coaching young players to success, and we have allot of those.
Argentinian systems usually rely heavily on a strong defence with flair from the forwards, although diving is not frowned upon (something I disagree with).
Tactically they usually change formations to suit their opponent & are not afraid of a 4-4-2 if it is needed or any other formation.
Also for not being the tallest of nations they rarely are troubled with set pieces, which suggests that they train effectively to combat those situations.
Pekerman is hungry for success at this level and could tactically rearrange the squad to make us more dangerous.
My concern is that he has very little success at the highest level, and is probably a cheap fix.
23/06/2008 18:19
really impressed with Vitor Pele, I think he will eventually run our midfield. Antunes looks good as well, our future is bright, as long as these guys reach their potential.
23/06/2008 16:36
Matt - I'm glad you bring up Antunes. Anyone know why he got so little playing time at Roma last year? I believe they like him and I hope to see him on the pitch this season in Serie A - likewise with Da Costa and Pele. If those guys step up and the SCP trio of Moutinho, Veloso and Patricio continue to improve, we can have a realy chance in 2010/12.
Of course, CR will have to learn to play like a man and not a prima donna. If he is going to be the captain, he needs to set the right example for the youngsters. I've never been the biggest fan of Nuno Gomes, but he played his heart out and led by example as captain. CR must learn to do the same if he ever wants to be considered among the greats.
23/06/2008 15:26
dfei Da Costa is a CB not a LB we can't start putting players in wrong positions!
Like scolari putting ferreira as are LB and look were out early!
Antunes is are LB he has all the qualities needed to do well in that position for Portugal.
Forca Portugal
23/06/2008 13:35
Excuse my grammer and typing. I'm still half asleep here at work.
23/06/2008 13:32
Portugal got what the deserved. Scolari and Ronaldo both cared more about their own personal agendas then the team. I'm so glad Scolari is finally gone. They only problem now tho is that the FA presidant of portugal is ignorant, egotistical and stubborn just like Scolari.
23/06/2008 10:38
About the left full/wing back, I think Manuel da Costa might be a good choice for 2010 if he did well in italy. He could be much better than Paulo Ferreira at that position.
23/06/2008 03:40
Ive a cousin whos German, but especially in the last WC when they were diving like mad it really upsets me. I believe it was actually Friedrick that stomped Ronaldo. Unfortunately that behaviour happens & depending on the ref it is called. Swiezinger who mildly pushed the diving Croat was given a red but then other calls that the ref had their eyes on go uncalled. Like the Italian giving the elbow today, ref saw it, raising a hand to a player is a straight red, not called.
Portugal Nuno Gomes gets dragged down in the box goes uncalled, but Germany were getting free kicks in dangerous spots from Ballack simulating.
There are double standards in the game, teams with more Cups get favours.
The Italians for example soak up alot of pressure defensively & then counter attack, I think at points the ref feels bad for them for soaking all that pressure & lets a few calls go to balance the game, but it isn't the other teams fault that they choose to play that way.
I watch allot of games & the favouritism drives me mad, as it ruins great games. Take Turkey they won't win this week because the refs have booked them harsher than other teams, & if it was Italy or Germany down to so few players Im sure they would change the rules to allow them to replace those injured players, but because it is Turkey they won't.
Turkey unfortunately has very little chance of winning because they are missing all their best players, but you can never count them out because of their heart.
23/06/2008 00:23
I can't wait to see the results in the upcoming fixtures it should be a good pair of matches to watch!
My final i predicted will be Spain and Turkey.
I really hate the Germans i never did before but from what i saw during the game vs Portugal it made me think again.
Metzelder stepping on Ronaldo's ankle i believe or was it Mertersacker can't remember but that was dirty!!!
Before the game the players had a plan to stop Ronaldo was stepping on his ankle the plan?
What about Lahm grabbing Simao's leg after he took the ball from Lahms feet was it jealousy or just plain dirty?
What about the push on P.Ferreira that ended up as a goal?
Germany does not deserve to be in the semis for all that i no i would rather see Austria
I really think Turkey can beat Germany with a score of 3-2.
Turkey will have trouble in the air when Germany has guys like Ballack.
Turkey just has to play there game and hope for the best.
Spain will win 2-0 i feel the Russians will put up a fight but will there tactical game be enough to stop the young and fast Spain?
I really can't wait!
22/06/2008 22:50
Matt I posted my thoughts on the Euro2008 page on the Kings of Negativity.
There is only one thing I enjoy more than a Portugal win, and that is an Italy defeat.
Becareful Matt they are the poorest sports on the planet and will be standing on street corners with bricks, cans, eggs, and all sorts of other projectiles throwing them at any Spanish flagged car that passes.
I have many Italian friends but I can't for the life of me fathom why they support cheating, simulation, dives, dirty tackles, offside positioning (in hopes of an advantage), and catenaccio style of play. It is only because as Fans, Players, & Mgmt that don't think they can win games fairly.
One of their tactics is to soak up pressure minimize energy so that they can save it for when the opposition is tired & frustrated for them to counter in the last 5 mins.
I have rarely seen an important game that thy did do something dodgey to win. Take the France game where the player grazed Toni and he went down like he was shot by a cannon.
Note to UEFA if the head comes back unless they have been lassoed with an arm or rope, it means that they are diving or simulating.
There is no gentlmenly honour in cheating & diving, unfortunately UEFA & FIFA do nothing about it.
I didn't watch all the games, just most, and I only saw one card for diving, and there has been atrocious dives in this tournie, fortunately it wasn't like the last WC which was a disgraceful show of Olympic diving teams.
Forca Football
22/06/2008 22:50
It is likely a Germany-Spain final and if it is, I'll be interested in seeing how Spain copes with the aerial game of Germany. From the samples I saw today, Spain was combative the few times Italy went to the air attack. The Spanish used good soccer techniques in fighting for position, something the Portuguese can learn from. Plus you saw a real GKer Casillas take charge of the box -- something we have not seen in the last 2 years.
MarcOde in Toronto, thanks for feedback and I did like your comments on Scolari and some of the questions he is accountable for answering to the FPF.
I've said many kind things about Scolari and understand some of the challenges he faced but his axis of Ricardo, Petit, and Ferreira is outlandish.
Ricardo due to Rui P being young and Quim being injured not much choice but the other 2 suspects we could have made changes.
Ferriera is probably the 5th best right back in Portugal (Bos, Miguel, Joao P, Nelson). Paul F in 04, sat after making a crucial error against Greece in game 1, Paul F didn't start in 06 WC. If Scolari didn't play him in the past why now? Did Miguel screw up with some of his exploits at Valencia to take himself out of the picture?
Peit was poor in 2002, didn't start in 2004 or 2006. Whay start in 2008 when yoiu have a proven player from 06 in Meira?
3 weak players on the field in def is a recipe for a loss.
22/06/2008 22:04
I agree with you Matt, at least one team from the Iberian Peninsula should make this #$%^ final. Thank God Italy are out. I really respect their Machiavellian approach to the game, but I hate watching it. I always thought the more beautiful the women from a country than the more beautiful the game they played. Italy have proven me completely incorrect. Russia v. Spain should be one hell of a fun game to watch.
22/06/2008 21:43
Yes! i don't have to here the italians on how they think italy is better then Portugal!
Thanks to Spain it won't happen.
I hope spain wins this year since Portugal is out.
Forca Spain!
Forca Portugal!
22/06/2008 20:41
Read between the lines knowone said stepovers will win you games.Changing your style of play to shut up your critics is not a good thing, enjoying the game first above all will win you games. I didn't say he had to stepover the ball all game long. Reading books will not make you a better player it only makes those who think they know better armchair analalists.
22/06/2008 19:08
What do stepovers have to do with winning games? this was CR's best tournament, & if not for the tactical ineptitude of Scolari & squad selection we wouldve won.
Stepovers dont score goals, & if you do enough of them you allow every player on the park time to get back & defend.
Great defences will double or triple mark Ronaldo the first defender forces them one way while the second sweeps up the ball, if the second doesn't then the 3rd is right there, any way we lose.
Fortunately those days of doing it all by himself & us losing are gone. If you don't understand that part of the game then you should read a few books.
Rui Costa plays nothing like Ronaldo, & never had the ability to show up a defender, Figo did but never went to Italy in his youth fortunately or else he would have been crippled.
If Ronaldo did a stepover in Serie A the defender would 2 foot his ankle, the next time would be a knee PERIOD.. that is their game that is the way they play.. dirty tackles and on the offensive side a change in the wind direction sends them to the ground more times then that slut on your street corner.
As for Spain it is a much better league than Italy with more offensive approach which will suit CR but there are some hot tempers and they don't always tackle cleanly, but it is no where as bad as Italy.
As for Ferguson he has taught CR to be a team player, a winner, to be harder to drop with the ball, and to curtail his diving, he was heaven sent. Now I wish for the same w/Nani.
22/06/2008 15:39
Perfect Timeing read the latest article at http://www.portuguesesoccer.com/ You'll never break Ronny
22/06/2008 15:38
Your line was "he may need help he looks like the type who would hurt himself if you know what I mean?" This goes beyond "sports" psychology in to areas we don't need to be in. I do not see how Spain will "ruin you." It is a more expressive game than England. He certainly can't be kicked any more than he has already experienced in England. It feels like this conversation should take place on another thread and not this one.
22/06/2008 14:19
Rick who said I hate Ronaldo? The amount of pressure the world put on this guy and people love to see him fail is unbeleivable.And if you think Psycolgy has nothing to do with sports than I think you've never played a organized sport.In the last 10 years more atheletes have used sport psycologist and it's a growing business.Have you not read about athelets or famous celebs turning to drugs, crime or worst.One can only take so much and your right the death of his father the death threats he took that well(strong kid if you ask me)Thumbs Up!On the other hand Rui Costa Played in Italy and they Loved him,I beleive they would also love Ronaldo.If you haven't noticed Ronaldo has not used his trademark stepovers which has made him what he is today,Sir Alex in my opinion has taken the fun out of it for Ronaldo and he may have even lost some of that touch.In Spain they will ruin you.
22/06/2008 05:03
Melo I have to agree with the others Spain is not a bad place for a Porkchop, it is as good as England, but Italy come on dude.. any supremely talented player in that league is out within a few months with a knee or anle injury, look at the other Ronaldo they chopped him down with 4 knee injuries.. I would rather Quaresma learn that lesson.
Besides Ronaldo going to Real would be a good thing since Nani will get more playing time, which will benefit our national team.
I love the Premiership and feel it is a great league that teaches Portuguese players a complete new style, that adds to our flair, and since the challenges are usually hard but fair they learn the proper way and are not hatcheted to death.
I would never recommend a Porkchop go to the Italian league, although their are quite a few things they could learn there, the hatchet men usually do a number on them. Most of the Portuguese there have sustained a few injuries, or are benched, either is not good for the Team.
Although I do appreciate your opinion, and understand your reasoning.
22/06/2008 02:44
My friend Melo if you think Ronaldo should go to Roma or Juventus thats a big mistake i would rather see him in the j league!
The serie a would mess up ronaldo with diving and cheating! serie a is full of a bunch of complainers who call them selfs footballers!!!
If you think Serie A is football i hope God blesses you!
22/06/2008 01:56
Melo - What the hell is wrong with you?
"he may need help he looks like the type who would hurt himself if you know what I mean?"
Go somewhere else if you want to hate on CR. Is he perfect? Hell no...but I think the kid has proved that he can handle emotional stress. His father dies and it only pushes him to become a better player. The entire British Empire wanted his head on a stick after WC 2006 and he comes back to win back-to-back player of year awards. CR will excel whether it is at Real, Manchester, or Timbuktu. In fact, the Spanish game suits him much more than the English one and I would imagine he salivates at the opportunity to run wild at the Bernabeu. Your comment was weak...and repulsive. Stick to soccer and avoid the pop psychology.
21/06/2008 23:51
Hey Ronaldo going to REAL will be the biggest mistake of your life.That team changes coaches every year.Play in Italy or stay at United but avoid Inter better choice Roma or Juventus.Off Topic That kid Ronaldo looked pretty shaken up after the game in my opinion he may need help he looks like the type who would hurt himself if you know what I mean? Reporters and The Media can be ruthless.
21/06/2008 23:29
I agree with Matt as regards Rui Patricio. Scolari should have taken a chance with him. He has very good tools and is improving rapidly. I would not be surprised if he ended up as Portugal's starting goalkeeper in the WC.
21/06/2008 21:40
I forgot my question why not Ricardo Quaresma or Luis Nani instead of Simao???
21/06/2008 21:37
Marc0de you are 100 percent right!
Why Petit there was a number of good players in the squad who could of done a much better job then him for example Veloso was probably are best choice he's young,fast,a reasonable size,good in the air and a great dribbler!
We had Meira as well who could of played the defensive role hes a big guy and can take the ball from anyones feet he is also very strong on the ball and off.
Why Ferreira? why not Ribeiro, Scolari really had the guts to leave Maniche out of the squad but he didn't have the guts to play Ribeiro or Miguel in that LB role i don't understand?
Why Ricardo? why not Rui Patricio?Thats what i would really like to no is why not Patricio, he had a exellent season with Sporting right? How was Ricardo's season?
from what ive heard it wasn't a season at all for him.Why would Scolari risk using Ricardo when he made a number of mistakes in the Qualifying rounds? but not taking a risk on Patricio?
Why not Almeida hes huge,hes good in the air, he does lack in speed but other then that hes probably are best striker.
Is it favouritism that Scolari wants or Talent?
21/06/2008 18:55
hello everyone.
As fine a coach scolari was for Portugal and his many great achievements for Portugal, at the end of it all scolari must accept that his tactical ineptitute against germany, was the cause of our downfall. No matter what excuses, he is to blame.
Questions The FPF should have asked scolari: why no Meira. why Ricardo. Why Petit. why no Almeida and Veloso. Why Ferreira when Miguel would have been the only choice. im not a pro, im just a fan, but even i could see we were not going to win this game. scolari needs to go back to Sun Tzu and re-read that famous work. As for a new coach, i would suggest a Brazilian or Italian. And please more friendlies with Germany and Italy, we need the experiance and knowledge. Orlandomac, Matt and Tony, you guys do an excellent job on this post, dont stop your fine work. I would suggest maybe starting a petition for coach, maybe the fpf would take our suggestion. im voting for Lippi or some unknown Brazilian coach. And now im going to cheer for my beautiful adopted nation and our qulification for WC - GOOOOOOOOOOO CANADA :)
21/06/2008 15:48
I can't wait for the WC Qualifiers
to get started!
I hope ill see the young stars of Portugal get there shot like Nelson,JoaoPereira,Vieirinha,Rolando, and Rui Patricio etc!
I think Riijkard should be coach he has a good record with barcelona winning 2 La Liga titles and 1 champions league victory!
Zico could also be a good option for Portugal.He lead Fenerbahce to a quarterfinal in the champions league which is very impressive!
Either one would be a good coach for Portugal. I would pick Riijkard because he plays a effective style of football.
Riijkard plays a possiesion game by keeping the ball in the opponents end then waits for a mistake in the opponents defensive line and takes that chance.Riijkard is a disciplinary coach he tells the players to play my way or don't play at all.
It would be good for Portugal to get a coach who could build a good group of players to play together and be effective.
He would also play effective players not favoured!!!
I can't wait to see are new coach who ever it is i no this person will rebuild Portugal from the Keeper to the Striker.
My Formation i would pick for Portugal would be a 4-3-1-2 or
3-4-1-2!
4-3-1-2
LS:H.Almeida
RS:H.Postiga
CAM:Deco
LWM:Nani
CDM:M.Veloso
RWM:C.Ronaldo (C)
LB:Antunes
CB:B.Alves
CB:Pepe
RB:Bosingwa
GK:Rui Patricio
3-4-1-2
LS:H.Almeida
RS:H.Postiga
CAM:Deco
LWM:Nani
LCM:M.Veloso
RCM:J.Moutinho
RWM:C.Ronaldo(C)
LCB:B.Alves
CB:Carvalho
RCB:Pepe
GK:Rui Patricio
21/06/2008 15:42
Orlandomac, I probably was not clear in my point. I understand CR and this team are in great physical condition and are a step up from previous generations. My point is that Portugal needs a few more athletic type players on the field. Not all players have to fit this category but you look at France in their prime and a Patrick Viera type of player or even a Michael Ballack on Germany. Players who can incorporate athlethic skills into their soccer game.
Our midfield for example with Petit was overmatched at times. Ferriera should have never been marking Ballack on the third goal but offered no resistance. He had no athletic or physical presence to match Ballack.
I see potential in our younger generation to be more athletic. Nani for being short is trained in martial arts and when not diving can be a very physical and athletic type player.
Right or wrong, the better you are at other sports or activities it will help you in your sport of choice. As our players get exposed to sports or activities outside of soccer, it should help them be better players and match up better against teams with speed and size.
21/06/2008 14:48
FRANK RIJKAARD (the only guy right for the job period!!!)COOL HAIRDO,YOUNG AT HEART,FULL OF GUTS,AND MOST IMPORTANTLY PRIDE DOES NOT INFLUENCE HIS DECISIONS.
21/06/2008 12:07
Very sad game. I wouldn't mind if they lost fairly but the last goal was bogus. It was bad luck
getting Germany in this round too. The Germans were playing at home (Austria=Germany)and the refs bent to the crowd. The Germans outsmarted scolari the first 20 minutes with their formation and
strategy. Also Ricardo can't handle high balls period.
21/06/2008 11:57
Avis what are you talking about? We have a better record in the last 5 Euros then the World Champs, England, Spain, Holland, Sweden and Germans? Add a few more teams. I guess they are shitty teams too..
Dude we haven't won a trophy but the results have been excellent nonetheless.
Everyone here would love for them to raise a trophy, they learned another lesson on the road there, they went down fighting.. nothing wrong with that, we should have met the Germans in the semis, and there is probably no other team besides the cheating Italians that could've knocked us out.
Let's stick to reality here..
21/06/2008 10:23
Portugal always disappoints in big tournaments. Look at what happened in 2004, everything was there for the taking in their backyard and they lost to Greece, a team that was far less talented.
Portugal has plenty of standout offensive players, but need a makeover when it comes to goal keeping and some of the back four positions. You have to be aggressive and tactically smart on the defensive end to win championships. Defense clearly must be the number one priority for the team's next coach.
21/06/2008 09:33
You cant loose concentration against teams like Germany.But we did and as a result we payed the ultimate price.Our team who thrilled so many around the world is out!And i'm gutted about it!
We knew the Germans were going to exploit our weakness at the back,especially from set pieces,and yet the marking was so poor.I hope they learned from that! And whoever takes over, work on this as it needs imediate attention.Yes "Ali" we play with our heart,at times with so much flair but perhaps it's time to control that if we are going to win anything.If i could choose i would have Mourinho but unfortunely he'll be coaching Inter Milan instead.So rjikaaard would be my second choice but problably will be Zico as they want someone who speaks the language.Good luck for 2010,all we could do now is wait...
21/06/2008 09:30
Portugal/Germany game:
1)Ricardo has no maturity nor classe to be portugal goal keeper. He sank us in the euro 04 final & sank us against the germans now. He is an embaressment.
2)Scolari is a old fashion person who get stuck when the game needs some imagination and balls.When you are losing 2-0 or 3-1 against a team like german, you have to gamble everything. Instead take off Nuno Gomes,take Paulo Ferreira and Meireles off, bring Postiga as a second striker plus Quaresma to the left. Try something outside the square, be brave.Who cares losing 3-2 or 5-2.
God help Chelsea
21/06/2008 08:59
21/06/2008 08:58
Tony I'm not sure what you meant by physical because the Portuguese team is one of the better conditioned ones, as evidenced in this tournament. Even the Germans at the end of the game, just sat back as they couldn't continue to push. This conditioning is in part because of Ronaldo he works out like a madman and the others can see the levels he has attained so they have copied his regimens.
I thought we outlasted every team we played, Turkey tired under the pressure, Czech's couldn't keep the pedal to the metal, even the Swiss looked like they were running out of gas, and like I mentioned the Germans were exhausted and collapsed to cover. I personally think Portugal has some of the greatest physical specimens, and this has lead us to where we were. I think the Golden Generation were guilty of running out of steam, not the current crop.
They generated chances all the way to the end, unfortunately their aim was well off target, but the important thing is they were getting the chances. Soon enough when these players round out some more that will improve.
I think some of the older guys looked more nervous than the young kids, Ricardo, Ferreira, Petit, Deco, Simao looked much more nervous than CR, Nani, Bos etc..
21/06/2008 04:01
8- It is part of the Portugese Drama that we Arab relate to it much.
We love drama, sad endings .
Portugal plays well, enchant all , but they convince themselves that they do not deserve happy ending . I dont know if Fado should be blamed . Or repetitive mind stories that are being played.Portugese play with their heard and not their mind. And that what happened . Since the Germans .were like machines. No magic . No Skills. But full focus and concetration
21/06/2008 04:01
The day Portugal lost against Germany was the worst day of my life.
Portugal lost due to the following :
1-Scolari basicly does not care , cared more about Chelsea offer and did not care much about the team.
2-His mistake was clear on his choices for Swiss Match line up. The loss made Ricardo and the defense team loose their confidence.
3-Not playing such a defensive player and tall like Meira on Germany Match , He should have played instead of petit or instead of Periera while playing Migual instead of Perera.
4-Germany played zone defence, and when you lack area, you need a creative player solution . The only player that can do that in Portugal is Rui Costa, I know he retired back in May. But he did a great season . Why scolari hates old players ? Have a look at sweden and Holland . You see players playing at their mid thirties ?
5-C.Ronaldo plays well as a CF when the team plays on counter attack while playing consertavily ,this should have been done .
6- The Chances that Raul Merles had or Mountini , if only an experienced player such as Deco, Rui Costa or Quaresma had . Portugal could have won.
7-I could tell that the Portugese lost their focus and concetration during the match , they were shaked. Had tight nerves . They need staff expertese part of the team that can solve such problems ( similair to Holland)
21/06/2008 02:07
Vasco, well stated.
I think most of the Portuguese are satisfied with the effort of the team and the fact that Portugal has qualified for all tournaments except for the 98 WC in the past 12 yearss. A good 12 year run puts on us the futebol landscape, gains recognition for our football, and shows we are a top 10 team in the world. This is wonderful and most people despite not winning a trophy are proud.
We must instill tactics and a mentality that matches our most fierce adversaries that we have a difficult time beating. There is a tactical, mental, and a bit of a physical aspect to that. Being small doesn't make us inferior but I believe we must grow in tactics, improve our mental aspect, and on the physical side be a bit more athletlic. I know soccer is about technical skills but there seems to be a bit of a athletic aspect lacking in our game. As Portugal progresses in developing soccer players and passes on tactical and mental teachings, we must become more athletic to compete against this teams. Look at the
French play and you see technical skills completed by some physically gifted players. My point is that we need to develop total players: technical, mental,tactics, and physical. This will take time and we are on the road. The future is bright!
20/06/2008 22:17
Portugal need tony robbins or some other motivator as their new coach. someone who will kick their asses all over the field and play guys that will run like hell and sit superstars that don't want to go all out.
20/06/2008 22:11
Portugal need mentality overhaul plain and simple. I knew they would lose after they lost the game against switzerland a meaningless match but a game in which they should have gone out to win, it would have sent a message. holland also played a meaningless game against romania but won 2-0. the mark of a champion. Portugal rarely rises in these types of games. they go in with the prima donna mentality instead of playing their asses off. I also don't want italy to win but i have to italian teams bust their asses for 90 minutes similar to argentina. portuguese players lack the drive to win major competions and it pisses me off because we obviously have the talent but often our games are played as if they are going for a stroll in the park,creative but also lazy type passing, lazy defending and the idea that we have to score the flashy goal. fuck it, games are won by goals scored not aesthetic soccer skills. as much as i don't like they way italy plays, we can learn alot from them in their approach to the game. 1 thing i see when italy plays and it is effective is counter attacking and timing the ball with the release of a striker or winger to beat the offsides trap which results in numerous breakaway opportunities. italy makes a living off scoring goals in this manner.the other thing is they play with alot of grit and often early affords them to sit back and defend while always looking to add their lead.
20/06/2008 21:47
Incredible Turks strike again, these guys just don't stop running....
20/06/2008 21:33
Portugal need a left back, a keeper, and Turkish heart ... wow, I'm speechless, just awesome. Congrats Turkey.
20/06/2008 20:58
I do not want Quieroz, guy isnt a good manager and has failed at the job already. I prefer zico/Lippi
20/06/2008 20:49
Hitzfeld is going to be the new swiss manager .. so i guess that rules him out !
Just watching the Cro\ Tur match ... in the words of Tony Montana " we would have eaten those teams for breakfast " had we gotten to the semis
20/06/2008 20:41
The best thing about a new coach is that everyone starts equal .We have a limited but talented squad of players and our first 11 can be match for anyone even if we lack the squad depth.
Hopefully the next manager will have a system of play that can harness our attacking play with some solid defense .
I read the name Lippi banded about but i don't really think he wants another national job after all when you've won the world cup it's all downhill.
What is clear is that we need a tactial coach,most of out previous managers have just relied on our talent to win games , but talent needs to matched with organsation .Name a sucessful team and i show you a well organised defence
I'm not sure if Hitzfeld has a job after leaving the Bayern job but he could be the man .
20/06/2008 19:48
Well Said Vasco
20/06/2008 19:42
I think we can look in hindsight and suggest so many changes, but that doesn't help. The fact of the matter is we lost, plain and simple. The team tried for the win and didn't give up - something we all can be proud of. We should support our guys and leave it at that. (Although, I hope this is the last we see of Ricardo)
Yes, the set pieces killed us, but I don't think Portugal's lack of height had anything to do with the loss. Croatia aren't particularly tall, but they beat the Germans. It's just that Germany capitalized on their chances; something they didn't do in their last two games.
I'd prefer to look at this past tournament this way - Portugal has made alomst every international tournament since 1996, witht the exception of the '98 WC. I'd like to think that the national program is building a demanding, winning mentality which will be passed on to every generation of players that laces up his boots. This I beleive will bring Portugal a trophy. They have to get into the battles with the Italy, Germany, to truly understand what it takes to win - maybe Greece being the only exception. But I hope the next coach is a top man -whether it be Lippi, Queiroz or whomever - and surpasses Scolari's achievements. I think we should be proud of our team.
FORCA PORTUGAL AND EVERYONE HERE!!!!
20/06/2008 18:50
For the record let all non portuguese people on this forum know that we are not bitter and do not entirely blame Scolari but I will have to say that HUNDREDS of coaches (international and local) would of loved to coach this team and the previous teams because of their potential of winning major tournament.I'll bet anyone that Portugal will have many offers from high rated coaches who would jump on the opportunity.
20/06/2008 18:45
Here is a question to ponder...
Why do we always lose to tactical teams?
Germany
France
Greece
Italy
S.Korea
20/06/2008 18:34
Agree with my fellow contributor and observer Orlandomac.
I hate to dwell on the past and am looking forward to the future but this forum serves as a place to cope with the loss. As I have stated, it is not so much the losing as the way we lost that is disappointing.
In some ways Scolari was in a difficult situation in picking players that he was loyal to vs inserting new players who had not quite demonstrated they were ready. He may have thought it was too dramatic to change the entire team.
I believe after you watch a player for 4-6 years you can conclude the performance you'll see on the field.
Ferreira and Petit in particular have shown nothing that would make you conclude the would perform well. The inept Caneira would have been a better chose over Ferreira if Scolari didn't want to play Miguel on the left. Ribeiro is not even worthy of mention. Meira over Petit was a obvious.
One thing the next coach can instill is some leadership on the field. I have heard the Germans changed the players on set pieces and we didn't know what to do. Very simple you get chest to chest/f2f with a player and force him to barrel you over but don't give up space. Carvalho and CR should have taken leadership on the set pieces. I would expect CR to be in the face of Ballack on set pieces. The next coach needs to instill leadership and more grit with a focus on tactics.
20/06/2008 18:21
We should have pushed back (With both hands if necessary). Instead we rolled over.
20/06/2008 18:08
Micheal Trafford I agree with most of your points but it wasn't hindsight or to be wise after the fact. We ALL saw it coming including Scolari years prior, but unlike him none of us were in a position to change it.
He has other strengths that he brings to the team but he is tecnically inept to counter or lacks a gameplan to counter teams. He is a players Coach, lays down one system and then supports the players he chooses throughout. That has some advantages, but lacks many.
Petit shit the bed in 2002, & hasn't changed since.
Ferreira although is a team player, is TOO slow for international level.
Not once in all the training footage I have seen have I ever saw them working on set plays. Maybe they did go over it once, but I can assure you they don't work on it on a regular basis, at this level set-plays win games & lift trophies.
Scolari even realized he was in trouble with his short line-up but did nothing about it even though he had many answers on the bench, especially ones that even play in the same league as their opposition, that is inexcuseable.
Now I think his tenure was a positive one, & his tournament record was great, but just like his WC team this team is loaded with talent, any coach that can tell the federation clubs to shut up will excel.
Besides they did excute the coaches plan & you saw it's result loud & clear, they had no answer for tactical changes the Germans could've scored at will.
I commend you on your support though.
20/06/2008 17:42
Many great points by too many to list here.
Rick I guess that means a Brazillian Zico, I could live with that.
I agree w/Tony that it should be a hard tactical coach, Zico probably isn't that but he is a WC winner & knows what it takes, as for the speaking Portuguese that is so the clubs can have his ear, not good.
As for why Simao, he is a team player goes both ways, & dominates in field possession like a Rugby player. He gets the ball & if he can't beat the defender which at this level he has a hard time with, he wins a corner. This maintains pressure & allows us to have a huge amount of possession. Although the last game definitely wasn't his best with poor crosses, & not as many corners as he usually gets. I too didn't have him in my starting squad but in the end did appreciate those facets of the game, & if not for his defensive coverage Ferreira would've been blown away more, didn't you see how many times it was him defending against the Germans? As for the free kicks he is clinical from a certain range, unfortunately we never got any kicks in that area because other teams were wary of either him or CR shooting from there, a fact our team didn't exploit. He also plays a much more forward game than CR so stretches the D, Quaresma likes to do the same as CR, and defences easily adapt to both Q & CR, they just sit back and double & triple mark on those two. So I hope that answers why he was a good selection, albeit it was his worst games.
Q is selfish.
20/06/2008 17:42
Scolari made us believe and dream in 2004, 2006 and now in Switzerland, and rightly so, but bottom line is, he won nothing with an amazing pool of talents he could choose from. He was stubborn in some of his line-ups -Ricardo's a disaster and should have been replaced as the no1 keeper a long time ago as for Paulo Ferreira, clearly he has never deserved to be lined-up in this team. Yesterday, we paid a high price for their floppy performance.
20/06/2008 17:41
There is only one candidate for me...LIPPI. I dont think there are any good available portuguese coaches out there right now, that includes Queiroz. He has proven many times over that he is a true winner. Its no secret that Portugals downfall has always been there ineptness at the back. I tihk LIPPI is the best defensive tactiticia out there, & wiould definitely settle our team defense.
20/06/2008 17:34
HIRE LIPPI, ENOUGH SAID
20/06/2008 17:23
Scolari should of used the 4-4-2 formation. Hugo Alemida & Nuno Gomes uptop. We needed a big body to mess with the Germans. I think we should of played Quaresma/Nani over Ronaldo. Why? Germans prepared for Ronaldo all week long. We could have confused them. Bring Ronaldo on at halftime and let him change the game. Germans would have been confused. But you cannot keep the world's best player off the pitch in a Qtr. Final in the Euros, but to me that would have been the smart thing to do.
20/06/2008 17:18
NELSON FROM EAST TIMOR, i agree with u.
scolari should of changed his lineup formation. so that the germans could be confused like they did to portugal. it would have been a good idea of trying ronaldo in striker postion, nani, querasema on the side flanks. nani and querasema could have control the ball most of the time. all they have to do is pass to the middle to ronaldo.
20/06/2008 16:55
THIS PRETTY MUCH NARROWS DOWN WHO WILL BE THE NEXT COACH OF THE SELECAO:
Madail added: 'Whether some like it or not, he (Scolari) left a mark in Portuguese football.
'He is a spectacular coach who made a huge impact and that will remain in the history of Portugal. But life continues.
'(The new coach) will have to speak Portuguese but not necessarily be Portuguese.
'He has to have ambition and be a winner. He has to be someone who the players respect.'
20/06/2008 14:22
I agree the 2000 team was the best team in the past tournaments but I stand firm that Scolari didn't get the job done.
If you know they are tall and physical then why do you dress the smallest lineup?
Perhaps Fernando Meira who plays in Germany could have been inserted or Bruno Alves who is tall was inserted to take care of Koller agaisn't the Czech's.
All and all I said from the start of this tournament that Portugal would play only 4 games. They showed some promise in the group stage but I needed to remind myself that they weren't world class teams.
On a very positive note they have the youth and the talent, so this team will be together for sometime.
Patricio will be a great future addition to the team when his time is ready. Veloso will be a great replacement for Petit and Nani will offer so much more explosiveneess then Simao.
The future is bright.
20/06/2008 14:18
Scolari has done a great job during his tenure as portugal manager. If they went through practice of defending set pieces and in the game they don't mark properly, scolari can't be blamed.
His tactical decision on players in positions tho however can be.
Ricardo, Ferreria, Petit and Simao should have been changed. Nani and Quaresma should have played instead of Simao. Could you imagine Ronaldo and Nani/Quaresma running amok on the wings? Teams would be at lost how to keep track. Petit is not up to playing the DM role at international level. This is one of the most important positions on teh field. ie what is needed? Shielding the defence, making hard and strong challanges and good pass completion. Petit should retire now from international level. I don't want to see him in two years time. I think we can take positives in two years time for the World Cup. Young players will have more experiecne and be more dangerous. My line up
Patricio
Bosingwa Pepe Carvhalo Miguel
Veloso
Moutinho Deco
Nani Ronaldo
Almeida
Our striker is also a problem. Although i have been impressed with Nuno Gomes in this tournament. He will be 33 by the time the next campaign comes around though. What do you guys think of playing Ronaldo as a striker? and playing Quaresma and Nani on the wings.
20/06/2008 14:16
I agree that Simão didn't have a particular good tournament. But the reason he was preferred over Quaresma is because, in Scholari's words: 'Simão is tactically perfected'. Indeed, his positioning on the park is excellent and he shows great tactical awareness and can defend pretty well. Whereas Quaresma often moves around the pitch like a headless chicken with no idea where to position himself and can't defend to save his life. He has tremendous ball skills and close control, but the way he plays often reminds me of a trained seal in a circus. Simão is far more practical, pragamatic, objective and intelligent. The fact that he was subpar in this tournament does not invalidate my argument
20/06/2008 14:06
Our best team was the one in 2000. But for an exceptional French team (the then world champions) - and a controversial penalty - we would have won the tournament. And we gave the French quite a run for their money. That team - with Figo at his best - would have strolled through the 2004 tournament
20/06/2008 14:01
The third German goal is clearly preceded by a foul and the referee has no excuse for not spotting the infringement (his view was not obscured) - if he didn't, it was because he chose not to and turned a blind eye. We were found wanting in the left-back position as well as in the striker position. Nuno Gomes was never an out-and-out striker. He was one of the best players in Europe playing in the 'hole', between the midfilders and the striker. Playing off the striker. He is/was outstanding at holding the ball up and playing one-twos and wall passes with his team mates. That is why he shoud have played in the final against Greeck instead of Pauleta. And the problem in the middle of the park is not one of quality. It is rather one of (lack of) size/height. That's where we were at a huge disadvantage to the Germans. Ricardo is well past his sell-by-date, but in this heydady (with Boavista) he was an excellent all-round goalkeeper, without any weaknesses - he was even very good at coming out for crosses. Two excellent seasons with Boavista. As for Vitor Baia: he shouldn't have gone to Korea as he was in the twilight of his career whereas Ricard was at the peak of his powers. But in his halcyon days, Vitor Baia was a world class goalkeeper who was rated by FIFA as one of the top 6 goalkeepers in the world which earned him a move to Barcelona - where he wasn't very successful, incidentally. But more to do with Barcelona's defensive system than anything else.
20/06/2008 13:58
It is very easy to be wise after the event. Benefit of hindsight stuff is ten a penny. Scholari has done a great job for Portugal and is our most successful national manager ever. So stop whinging and trying to crucify the Brazilian coach you bunch of moan-a-lots. The players were well advised and repeatedly forwarned about the danger the Germans posed at set pieces. At the end of the day it is ultimately down to the players themselves to execute the manager's instructions, and they failed miserably in that department. Even in the pep talk prior to the match, Scholari once again reminded them of the threat from the German's aerial play. It was a great game, a great spectacle between two excellent teams, which lent prestige to both sides. The more fortunate team emerged the winner. We committed fatal mistakes, but overall we put in a very good performance, and should have scored more goals. We had a very good shout for a penalty on Nuno Gomes in the first-half, and was quite glaring that the Swedish referee (with a German name) showed a pronounced leaning towards the Germans. He was all smiles and obsequious towards Ballack and Co, but when Nuno Gomes, exercising his rights in his capacity as captain, tried to speak to him, Mr Freitzel gave him dirty looks and waved him away.
20/06/2008 13:47
that was a horrific game on the defensive/goalie side, plus ronaldo didnt impress me at all, he did absolutely nothing!. The team played too much of a pasing game rather than shoot the danm ball and make chances. And Ricardo, please, PLEASE, get rid of him. his time is done, time to look for a new keeper b/c he was practically asleep the whoel game. and everyone is right re Ferreria, the germans took advantage of that, Scolari should have def. put in {despite his fitness Miguel or Riberdo}. I di like the midfield with Deco and Raul Meideles, both controlled the midfield well. The Defense was just a joke, Carvalho wasnt to be seen all frigin game. We need 1. a new keeper 2. a true leftback. the striker situation doesnt concern me {postiga, Almedia,etc. Dont forget we have Yjanick Djao on our u21 team and he will be avaiable for the World Cup 2010. Im hopeful we get a new coach who sint afraid to get the youth in their to cause havoc. Enough of this relying on veterans idea. Scolari was a excellent coach during his reign with Portugal, neow we need a fresher start and new hope to win in Africa in 2010. Forca Portugal 2010!!!
20/06/2008 13:41
I know Scolari isn't perfect, but think back to the disaster of World Cup 2002. I remember waking up at 2am to watch the US kick our ass. Hiring a weak coac at that time could have sent us in to a tailspin. Since he came on we have experienced our greatest run ever as a nation. He has also steered us through a very sensitive transition from the golden generation to the Cristiano era. Should we just settle for quarter's and semi's? Of course not, but I am glad that we brought Scolari in. I just don't see Lippi coming to Portugal and I agree with others that Hiddink probably won't be going anywhere before the next World Cup. But what about Quieroz? He coached us to the closest thing we have to a major championship. He assists one of the greatest tacticians ever. He knows Ronaldo and Nani's skills better than any other Portuguese coach. We could do a lot worse.
20/06/2008 13:16
Paulo Feireira don't know how to defend at all. Felipao did a very bad training job in this championship.
20/06/2008 12:59
PART 1
GOODBYE SCOLARI!!
So disappointed in his tactics, even in the qualifications he was so obvious. It didn't matter if Portugal faced a weak team or a strong team, his lineups and formations were always the same and forced Portugalinto the last game to qualify. I read a lot of people complaining about Petit and for what?, he played well and I thought he did his job and I know Veloso is quicker and more creative but you can't fill the field with young inexperience players and expect to win.
20/06/2008 12:58
PART 1A
As for Simao, I don't get his love affair with him. You have Nani (little imature) and Queresma (in the Dog house) but surely they are better players on the pitch then Simao. For the life of me why Simao tries and to take free kicks over Ronaldo blows me away, Ronaldo has become one of the best players in the world in taking free kicks and yet Simao is always trying to get involved in taking the kick (That falls on the shoulders of the coach).
Now as for Paulo Ferreira, why wouldn't Scolari put Canneira on the team or even better yet starting at LB and don't tell me Canneira didn't play much or didn't have a good season i.e. Deco and Ricardo. Canneira is a true left foot player and Paulo Ferreira was completely exposed in this tournament as Portugal’s weakness on Defense. I honestly believe that this decision to play Ferreira was based on Scolari's expectations before the tournament to be the coach of Chelsea. If that was the case Scolari, Shame on you for putting your club business in front of the interest in the National Team. Probably why he's trying to persuade Ronaldo to go to Madrid because Manchester United will not be the same and Chelsea will have a serious shot at the title.
20/06/2008 12:56
PART 2
As for the striker people like to talk about Portugal not having a striker and the truth is we don't but Nuno Gomez played well and exceeded my expectations in this tournament. He's not a true striker but handles the ball well and he did missed good opportunities but like I said he exceeded my expectations.
What can I say except Ricardo you were awful, no point talking about free kicks and corners because it was obvious and the injury to Quim turns out to be a big blow to the Selecao in 08.
All and all it pains me to say the refs didn't help but they didn't deserve to win, talent is one thing but a team is what wins. I look forward to the future of this team as I look for Nani, Veloso and possibly Patricio or Quim to be starting on this team in 2010.
FINALLY Scolari you were outcoached by a man in a V.I.P box the hole game, your small/predictable starting lineup was again obvious and your substations were confusing when down by a goal a stiker for a stiker substitution!!!
New coach and new philosophy is what this team needs and now is the time.
Forca Portugal
20/06/2008 12:30
As a foreign admirer of Portuguese football, I am very sad to see Portugal exit from Euro. I was hoping to see an all Iberian final. I hope the Spanish don't choke as well (again).
I have read some of the comments and understand both your disappointment and continued support. But you guys have to accept your shortcomings and demand change. You can not simply continue to accept mediocrity and favouritism. Clearly, Portugal lost the game due to strategic and tactical errors and not because of talent. At the end of the day, Germany was smart enough to modify their tactics and formation to suit a different adversary. Portugal on the other hand did not make that connection. Deciding to go with the same team and tactics as the first two games proved to be a critical error made by Scolari. Where were Meira and Almeida? Two players who know the German game. Why Nuno Gomes? Why Petit? Why Ferreira? And GOD help you all, why Ricardo?
I would just like to make another point about Scolari. After the game he said that he and his players did their best. Well, that all very fine, but when your best is not good enough, its hard to accept such an excuse.
My choice for coach: Lippi.
Good luck in the World Cup.
20/06/2008 12:13
Once again, Portugal chokes when it counts. Some serious strategic errors made by Portugal, which Scolari has to take the blame for. It reminds me a bit of Euro 2004. Portugal knew exactly what Greece was going to do in that final game, but simply let them do it. Portugal knew what type of game Germany was going to play and allowed them to play it. Scolari also did not see it coming when Germany effectively changed their formation. By the time he reacted it was 2 goals too late.
My final point my dear Portuguese friends, will Portugal FINALLY learn (the hard way) that RICARDO HAS TO GO!!!!!!!! He was absolutely awfull.
20/06/2008 09:41
what a dissapointment!!!!!
F****K
Seriously we threw that game away. basic defending mistakes.
carvalho ,
ferreira,
petit, ricardo...ALL GUILTY.
I loved Scolari..but he was in one tournament too long...FPF should have got a new coach after WC06.
As much as the players were partly toblame for blantant misses...i think scolari..as a tactical coach just didnt stack up...he never had a plan B...too predictable..i striker..ALL THE TIME...ronaldo is a great player when there areTWO strikers like at MAN U..with one striker there is only one centre back to mark nuno gomes..the other will double team cron with the fullback..& thast why his game get cramped..
im a benfica man..but thank go petit is gone..bring in manuel fernandes.
and bring in FRANK RIJAARD..whatever cost.
20/06/2008 09:41
Catana I agree with all your suggestions for upgrades. I think the finishing aspect will come with experience. Moutinho showed a lot of hustle and promise this tournament; with more international experience his performances can only go up. The same for players such as Nani and Quaresma; the more experience the better. And the way it looks, Nani will have the opportunity to hone his skills even further, as it appears Ronaldo is leaving Man U.
I feel goalkeeping is the major issue. As mentioned previously, defending set pieces is all about practice practice practice. I believe our players are (for the most part) intelligent enough to grasp this, given that the coach is intelligent and tactical as well. But goalkeeping is definitely a problem as of now, as Ricardo looks lost half the time he's out on the pitch.
20/06/2008 09:08
Ricardo and Ferreira cost us that game. The first goal Ferreira was beaten badly, the second goal Ricardo could have saved, as well as the third goal he could have come a lot earlier for the clearing punch.For 2010 we need to concentrate on replacing ricardo and upgrading our LB. Finishing needs work also. Moutinho had a great opportunity but awakwardly hit it with his knee. in conclusion glaring needs for 2010 would be:
goaltending
leftback
finishing
solutions could be antunes who roma stated will get more time than his 5 appearances.
rui patricio is already the #1 at sporting
nani has great penatration but still needs to work on finishing. with time he will be great. he already has great emotion and heart.
i also wanted to add that quaresma should have started over simao and for the coaching the federation is doing their best to keep the level high. zico would be the best option he has been a winner at all his destinations.
20/06/2008 05:57
Such a disappointing performance.
The poor marking from set pieces at this level of international football is inexcusable. Makes you wonder what they did in the training ground knowing the fact that the Germans are strong in the air and great from set pieces. The tactical discipline is needed not to concede silly free kicks also. Did you notice that the Germans didnn't give any free kicks away in dangerous positions of where Ronaldo would've been in striking range? There was one, but it wasn't a dangerouse angle. Ricardo had a shocker too. Thats what happens when u play a keeper who isn't match fit. The no.1 position has always been a problem. I never rated Vitor Baia.
For me, the most disappointing player today was Simao. We had 7 odd corners and the delivery for every single one was terrible. His crossing was poor and he lacked any sport of penetration on the wings. Quaresma must've been thinking to himself 'how can i not be in the lineup' instead of this guy.
I didn't agree with Scolari's tactics also. Why take of Nuno when you are down by 2 goals and need to score. Petit should've been sacrificed for Postiga/Nani/Quaresma switching to a 4-4-2.
20/06/2008 03:39
Orlando is correct on HIddink, his salary is being funded by the Chelsea oil baron. We need a coach who brings discpline to the team with clear objectives and player responsilities. We need less of a cheerleader and play with alot of heart type coach. We don't need a run into the wall coach but a tactical coach. We need to bring someone who will demand marking on set pieces as an example. This coach will have to look at developing and making the call on who the new GK will be as an example. There are about 3-4 positions at mentioned that need overhaul.
Given Portugal is a small country, it will be critical to have certain players develop at the club level so they can be of good service to Portugal. We have a good core of about 7 spots where we are set but we need Nani, Manual Fernandes, Manuel Da Costa