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| Tuesday, 07 September 2010 20:28 |
Portugal crash to defeat in NorwayNorway 1-0 Portugal The Seleccao followed up their embarrassing draw against Cyprus on Friday with a potentially damaging defeat against Norway in Oslo. A blunder from Eduardo allowed Huseklepp to score the only goal of the match in the 20th minute.
Portugal All doubts have now been banished regarding the harmful effect on the team of the ongoing battle between the anti-Queiroz faction in the FPF and the
Meireles chance
It could have been a very different story had Raul Meireles scored instead of ballooning over when clean through on five minutes. The Liverpool midfielder was in an offside position but the flag stayed down and
Defensive mistakes
The second half started with the hosts in the ascendancy as
As the clock started to tick down Portugal poured forward with increasing urgency, but there was little pattern to their play and no discernable plan, as the team relied on moments of skill from their talented individuals rather than a cohesive collective effort to find the breakthrough.
Almeida had the ball in the net on the hour mark, following up a fierce Fernandes shot that Knudsen could not hold onto, but the big striker had strayed offside.
Tiago almost burst through on goal, Danny miscued badly when Nani picked him out, and a late Bruno Alves header flashed across goal with the sliding Almeida just unable to get the vital touch.
Playing catch-up
To make matters worse for the Seleccao Denmark scored a last-minute winner against Iceland to leave Portugal playing catch-up at this early stage in Group H. Anything other than victory in the next game at home against the Danes in early October and Portugal’s chances of making it to a seventh consecutive major tournament will be hanging by the thinnest of threads.
by Tom Kundert
Knudsen, Hogli, Hangeland, Weahler (Demidov, 28), Ruud, B.H. Riise, Hauger, Grindheim (Jensen, 86), Huseklepp, Carew (Abdellaoue, 38), Pedersen
Yellow Cards: Riise Eduardo, Silvio, Ricardo Carvalho, Bruno Alves, Miguel Veloso, Tiago (Danny, 62), Manuel Fernandes, Raul Meireles, Nani, Hugo Almeida, Quaresma (Liedson, 83)
Yellow Cards: Meireles, Almeida
Goal:
[1-0] Huseklepp, 20
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No problem with people from states voicing their opinion but please learn the FiFa rules of footy. You lose all credibility raysagres when you make statements like that
Some of you lot are rudclious what so c.ronaldo has a son born in the us means hes gone play for USA, never in your dreams!
pft you lot saying it is a joke, just cause portugal is on a bad run at the moment so it makes you lot think C.Ronaldo will change nation.
Portugal can still qualify if some things change soon!
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I suggest everyone voice their opinions and email whoever you can. If we're going to complain, might as well complain straight to the source and let them know.
I see some people saying that we are a team ranked 25-40.
Don't be silly were not..We have World Class players who play for some of the best teams in the world like Real Madrid and Machester.
We need someone to find a formation and organisation that suits are play and players other wise we cant play.
We do have a great team, but were going through a rough patch at the moment since players like Simao, Deco and Paulo ferraira have retired and we have too many players injured like C.Ronaldo, Bosingwa, Coentrao, Pepe ect.
Plus new players coming in like Silvio and players who havent been in the squad for a while llike Quaresma.
New era of the national team will come soon only until queiroz gets sacked! ((I know these two games werent really to due with him, but its effecting us and we cant have no manager for 6 months!))
It was a 2-0 win over Brazil at the Emirates, I was at that game with my family and I was really proud to be Portuguese that night.
If you told me then that we wouldn't win another game against a top team for AT LEAST another 2 and a half years I would of called you insane but the sad reality is that since the Scolari era we have become nothing more than a 2nd/3rd tier international side that were lucky to qualify for the World Cup and are facing failure to reach Euro 2012.
Never mind top 25, we are now struggling to beat teams ranked 25-40 like Ivory Coast, Denmark, Sweden and now Norway.
This is the kind of company Portugal belongs with nowadays. These results will have harsh implications on our future. Our ranking will drop and when it comes to future qualifying like for WC 2014 and Euro 2016 we will probably be in the 2nd tier and find ourselves in a qualifying group with a giant like Spain or Germany, making it even more tough to reach major competitions.
Paulo Bento is being touted by Abola as Queiroz's likely replacement this morning but I think we need either a foreign manager or a young Portuguese manager like DOMINGOS PACIENCA.
It seems to me that this is all a big conspiracy. Q is up there buying his won tickets, the FPF don't care, and Augustinho says he is talking with Q, but we have seen a 4-4-2 come out of no where, absolute shambolic defending, rubbish counter-attacking, and erratic subsititutions. This is not Q in charge. He wants to say, they want him to go, no one is being definative.
Augustinho wasn't given a chance before with the A team, his results with the U21s weren't that great, but he is behind the helm doing things at his own pace. These qualifiers look to be going in the same direction and style as 2002, where Augustinhos brother made us look stupid.
Nevertheless, A BOLA is reporting Paulo Bento to take over. I think I can agree with this, but it has to be done within the next 2 weeks. Bento has a similar defensive style, but his attacking balance brought Sporting alot of titles. This may be blown up, but I wouldn't mind him in charge.
This is looking as much of a farse as '86, and we had a very good team then. Seems like Portuguese NT soccer is going back to the 1930 roots of bad results. We can only pray for our clubs to pull the weight.
We mark your words and your prediction, but the bottomline is your a fool.
No one can change their nationality/country that they are representing after the age of 21 years. Your the laughing stock in this site. Don't ever give comment like this again.
As for Portugal, how could they possibly win a game without a coach!!!
P.S oh ya also Tiago is BAD LUCK and totally shit.
Someone alreay mentioned how managers from other countries quit when they have a embarassing loss. Once again the FPF gives the person they would love to let go a pass since he wasn't at the helm. If you want him gone fire him and bite the bullet and pay him.
Then again, unlike everywhere else in the world, Queiroz will never quit.
I do find it funny that people are calling for Scolari to come back, when he was run out. If I remember correctly, everyone was happy that he was gone.
He might have been Brazilian, but I remember when he urged all Portuguese to go out and fly Portuguese flags during the Euros. He had the people behind the team.
Yes, I know, we shouldn't have lost to Greece.
In today latest embarassement, why was Danny sitting. He had a good game vs Cyprus. And why wait so long to put him in.
Tiago is done, lets move on. I would have prefered to have seem Moutinho. I don;t think that he's the answer, but at least its different. Even I'm sounding stupid now.
Nani and Quaresma had no space, but also didn't seemed to interested in doing much.
Still, why send Quaresma off for Liedson, when you had worse to pick from.
I can't believe that we didn't have chance after chance. It looked hopeless.
This is inexcusable.
Moral was good with Scolari, yet again no results. I think I just have to accept their status in the world of Football.
I feel terrible because usually I am so hopeful and expectant.
1) The federation and CQ fiasco has hurt a already fragile and team in transition. I do not feel sorry for any one but the fans, we are the ones that pay and watch to see miserable results. This needs to get fixed ASAP!
2) No creative midfield, we have been in decline in this area and do not have a world class replacement. Tiago is nice player but not a #10. Not sure who that player is but I do not think it is Danny.
3) As bad as the error by Eduardo, our inability to score especially on the road against a decent team showed again. What have we learned that we already knew? We can not score period ... the NT is who we thougth they were.
4) There is hope for 2012 but need to run the table and that will be difficult.
5) Conclusion: we can complain and post about players not having passion, this and that, etc. but we are not that good is the bottom line.
Fire Gilberto (auto-pilot) Madail, Quieroz is the worst head coach ever! Terrible in the 90's, awful now, the FPF will re-hire him again in 10yrs.
This Portuguese team has no chemistry or heart. Quaresma is pathetic, absolutely over-rated and selfish. Why no Moutinho? At least Portistas can't blame Ronaldo.
Was this the first time in history with no porto, benfica, sporting based players on the starting 11?
This chaotic circus will continue until CR7 comes to the rescue! Forca Portugal.
What a disgrace upon seeing the final score, saddening and totally unacceptable! As if a 4-4 draw at home to the likes of a 2bit Greece outfit was not shocking enough, Portugal have taken 1 point in 6 from two games!
Sort it out FPF!!!! ...get rid of CQ and support the national team with the backing they need and stop making our nation look like footballing retards!!!
Where is your f' ing passion??!!!!!
No, it's the players fault. These guys don't want to come and play and they are just making themselves feel bad. I don't like Queiroz either but sometimes you have to blame the players for the loss.
Sad to agree with many of the comments:
1) The selecção has no spirit
2) The rift between FPF and Queiroz is pathetic - they make Domenech and the French look dignified.
3) Our tactics are a shambles.
And I stick to my guns: with Cristiano it will only get worse.
Spanish press is hinting at Luis Aragones being the next Portugal Coach.
I'd preferred someone like Camacho or Clemente who would come in and kick some ass!
Ronaldo is being named the captain of Portugal with all due respect, even if we don't like it or not. If he recovers from injury and started playing for Portugal again, he will definitely caps more times than Figo or Fernando Couto.
Beside, big ego players like Iniesta, Xavi, etc. would never accept him in a thousand years to play with them.
Now with the midfield. Am i the only one who noticed that Tiago was the hardest worker today? Although Danny like to rush in more, i think Tiago is better in holding onto the ball and giving better passes, while Danny is a more running up guy and then pass if he doesnt have another option. Manuel Fernandes once again showed that although he is a defensive midfielder, if he is given space, he will rocket the ball whenever he can. We need more players to shoot when they have the opportunity! Meireles didnt see much of the ball today so i cant critisize him either.
As for forwards, i think Almeida isnt right in his head...He misses great chances all the time, and he has a short temper, like it was shown today when he grabbed the referees hand... Nani played as one of the best today, if not, he was the best in always crossing in, and shooting on net aswell, and setting up other players.
Worst player of the match i would give to Quaresma...people have to realise that his time is done. What have we seen today? First off all of his crosses were horrible. Secondly he has NO TEAMWORK whatsoever...he would prefer to try to take on 3 guys by himself and shoot on net then to pass to a player right beside him, this was shown numerous times in the match...i dont know what took them so long to put on Liedson, even though hes not amazing, at least Liedson passes the ball and plays offensively instead of running around doing moves..
I like many other Portuguese citizens still believe we can make it! With Coentrao and Ronaldo coming back we will sure be more offensive. and when Bosingwa and Pepe come then we will show who Portugal really is! FORCA PORTUGAL!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NOT EVEN GOING TO COMMENT.
It aint nothing to do with not playing with pride or the players can't be asked to play for Portugal.
Its silly school boy errors that cost us these games.
How many mistakes did we do against cyprus, and Norway..Eudardo made a really bad mistake.
Its too many mistakes that cost us games and were lacking organisatiion.
We need a new manager.But someone whos Portuguese not bloody lippi
The federation’s battle with the coach is hurting the moral of the team and destroying the fan base.
Leadership requires dissension to be made. Fire the coach and all his staff already.
We the fans of Portugal deserve much more than this chaotic, inconsistent and lethargic showing.
Maybe its time for some changes at the federation as well!!!
sorry, but there ain't no miracle happening here even with the return of CR7....
the cracks on this team have been visible for quite some time.... four years to be exact....
sadly, it may take longer than that to fix them.... beginning with those running the FPF....
All the comments from players and from people like mourinho who talked about the bad atmosphere with the players and querioz, maybe just maybe the fpf will wake up and fire this man as he seems to have to big of an ego to resign and realize he hasn't done a good enough job
Then again if we go with a traditional 4 4 2 whos the other striker alongside almeida. Its not like we have a david villa or torres to partner together.
same shitty formation, same shitty coach, same shit players
dont think theyre(players) blamless in this fiasco
Mark my words Gentleman. Before Cristiano Ronaldo's career is done, he will be playing for Spain! He's a winner, at all costs. He wants to be the best ever to play the game, and he works his but off to be so. I don't blame him. He's got the talent, drive and determination... but playing with the Selecao? He knows, he'll never achieve the levels he's been working so hard for.
My prediction?
He will play for Spain by the next world cup.
Nani and Quaresma were not given much space on the wings so most of the play was through the center. Therefore, the lack of an attacking playmaker (Danny) hurt us when we had the ball in the middle of the final 3rd. If Danny had played, he would have attracted more attention than Tiago and we would have a lot more space to work with.
Bruno Alves had another very poor game and Eduardo made a fool out of himself again. Silvio and Veloso were ok, but they lacked the attacking threat Miguel and Coentrao would give.
Meireles, Fernandes, and Tiago did a good job holding onto the ball in midfield, but there was a huge lack of creativity and the final ball. When Danny was brought in, he added much needed energy and almost set up Almeida with an excellent through ball. If he started, Portugal could of had at least a point.
Nani and Quaresma did not see to much of the ball in space, but they were very wasteful in possesion (especially Quaresma who was horrible). Almeida was ok, but he lacked any good service.
It will be very hard for the seleccao to qualify, but we have been through similar circumstances before and I think we can do it again. Hopefully, Ronaldo, Pepe, Coentrao, and Bosingwa will be back for the Denmark game which is a MUST WIN game.
We can still turn this around
FORCA PORTUGAL
I would be totally embarassed. If I was a friend or related to him Id tell him straight: "buddy you are shit and cant coach everyone in portugal hates you, quit for f*** sakes.
If anyone here is close to CQ, please pass on this message.
I think you could have circled the world with the mileage from Quaresma's waste of shots long, wide and high.
I'm just sick to stomach.
What is there to support or cheer for?
Great video of what not to do as a keeper, Ricardo.
I'll go throw up again. Gag reflex kicking in.
Eduardo
Silvio- Carvalho- Pepe- Coentrao
Mereiles- Fernandes
Nani Quaresma
Makukula- Hugo Almeida
Eduardo is a good goalie. He made a mistake and that's natural.
Sure, they are ravaged by injuries -- Ronaldo, Pepe, Bosingwa, Coentrao -- but c'mon. Eduardo's howler was atrocious but it's not like Portugal created many chances of their own. Almeida in an offsides position on the disallowed goal is totally unacceptable. Get your ass in gear and take ONE measly step back when the shot comes in. Unreal.
Let's put this nightmare behind us, get healthy and win the next six.
With Queiroz still on the bench, Portugal would have four points by now.
Once again, to the FPF, bem feito. As for the players, get a set of balls already.
The team is erratic and inconsistant. The job of the coach is to install a plan and demand discipline. I don't see either.
Too bad.
Portugal is in much worse shape here than WC qualifying. Better win the next 1.
The reality is that aside from Mourinho Portuguese coaches are soft dudes, this guy is as soft as Quiroz.... kissing players that did nothing on the pitch, kick them... don't kiss them man!!!
The good years in recent Portugal squad history were Scolari days so maybe it's time we all admit that an foreign coach is needed to handle this situation..... we've got to many players with big ego's, we need a coach with an ever bigger one.
P.S. It's sad that Portuguese fans have to dread a Denmark match these days. It just ain't 2004 no more boys.
I simply cannot cheer for the seleccao if they keep Qeiroz around.
He must get fired, he has to, my gosh again....horrible, mind boggling tactics.
We started with 3 defensive minded mids; tiago, meireles, fernandes.
8 mintues left to play and down a goal and we still had 2 defending mids out there & 1 striker, um mr Queiroz you know we need a goal right? just checking that your brain hasnt fallen into total retardation.
7 minutes left finally we bring on a striker, yyayaya, so who we gonna take off??? Alves? Meireles? Fernandes? nope, we take off our best player Quaresma. WTF?
I have never seen such an inept coach get this much leway & chances. If this was in brazil, Italy, Spain, etc. they would burned him to the steak in the city centre.
A part of me just wants the seleccao to keep losing, maybe just maybe one day the bones heads at the fpf will get it & fire him.
On another note what did Alves do 4 days ago to claim a spot on the starting 11? He got beat a few times & was lost again today. Mark my word, ALVES IS DONE. He left to Russia a far inferior league to Portugal for $$$, he doesnt have anything else to play for. When you play against shittier opponents , you become shittier, he has his cash now & really doubt that he gives a rats ass about winning the russian league. So Alves thanks for the last & only 2 years of service. SELLOUT.
I guess Eduardo is shit as well as he was key in costing us both games, get rid of him. Put a friggin tree back there for christs sakes.
And for those of you who are going to give the rest of the old "RELAX GUYS" or "FORCA PORTUGAL" or "LETS GET BEHIND THE TEAM" I doubt anyone wanst to hear it so STFU.