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Saturday, 04 June 2011 21:59

Postiga strike gives Seleccao vital win

Portugal 1-0 Norway

Portugal fansPortugal took an important step towards qualification for Euro 2012 with a hard-fought 1-0 victory over Norway at the Estadio da Luz tonight. Helder Postiga's fine strike in the 53rd minute from a Nani cross proved the difference between the sides.

In spurts they were exhilarating, at times they were sloppy and they ended the match nervously, but the Seleccao got the job done to continue the fine run of results under new coach Paulo Bento – including three straight wins in his three competitive games – to put Portugal top of the pile in Group H with three matches remaining.
 
A 50,000-plus crowd turned up in the Portuguese capital and the hosts started brightly. Moutinho, excellent throughout, and Meireles fizzed shots narrowly over and wide in the early exchanges as Portugal pushed Norway back with some crisp passing and dangerous wing play on either flank by Coentrao and Nani.
 

Ronaldo goes close

In the 10th minute Moutinho won a free-kick in ‘Ronaldo territory’ 25 yards out. The Portugal captain hit his shot well but a flying Rune Jarstein in the Norway goal produced a fine stop to push it round the post.
 
Although Portugal were dominating, Norway served notice that they posed a real danger on the break, creating two gilt-edged chances in quick succession. On 16 minutes the ball was rapidly worked to Huselklepp whose cross-shot brought a sharp diving stop out of Eduardo. The Norwegians spurned an even better chance in the 24th minute as a clumsy touch by Meireles teed up Pedersen, who skied his effort high over the bar from just 10 yards out.
 
The two scares seemed to knock Portugal out of their stride, and although they remained in the ascendancy chances were few and far between. As half time approached a fine Martins-Coentrao-Ronaldo combination ended with Cristiano heading Coentrao’s cross straight at Jarstein, and Nani’s low effort was then almost spilled by the keeper.
 

Postiga makes the breakthrough

As the second half kicked off there was a palpable nervousness among the strangely muted crowd, but the tension was soon relieved as Postiga, who had struggled to make an impact until then, came up with a true poacher’s goal. The Sporting striker sped in front of his marker to reach Nani’s inviting cross first, and direct a low finish into the corner of the net. Postiga has had his struggles in his club career, but at international level he retains the knack for scoring vital goals for the Seleccao.
 
Hopes that the goal would open up the game were confounded as Norway stuck to their defensive formation, making substitutions to freshen up the team rather than to change their tactical set-up.
 
Portugal were also content to retain possession without committing too many men forward, well aware of the importance of securing the three points. The Seleccao almost grabbed the killer second goal on 82 minutes. Nani appeared to be tripped in the box but the referee did not whistle. However, the ball fell right into Ronaldo’s path but the winger uncharacteristically dithered and the chance was gone.
 

Togetherness

Indeed, Ronaldo appeared jaded and did not have his best game for Portugal, although the willingness with which he brought his team-mates into play – a side of his game that was plainly lacking for the Seleccao in the past – was another evident sign that Paulo Bento has engendered an excellent sense of togetherness throughout the squad. Save a couple of high balls pumped into the box in the dying minutes, Portugal’s hard work and team spirit saw them through to the final whistle without undue alarm.
 
Portugal lead the group on goal difference from Denmark and Norway, with all three teams on 10 points. Although one or both of the Scandinavian rivals will drop points when they play each other in Copenhagen in September, everything points towards a group-defining final game between the Portuguese and Danes in the final round of matches of the campaign on 11 October.

Portugal:
Eduardo, João Pereira (Sílvio, 73), Bruno Alves, Pepe, Fábio Coentrão, Raul Meireles, Cristiano Ronaldo, Carlos Martins (Ruben Micael, 69), João Moutinho, Nani (Silvestre Varela, 86), Hélder Postiga
 
Norway:
Rune Jarstein, Tom Hogli, Brede Hangeland, Vadim Devidov, John Arne Riise, Bjorn Helge Riise, Henning Hauger, Christian Grindheim (Markus Henriksen, 83), Erik Huseklepp (Daniel Braaten, 75), Morten Gamst Pedersen, John Carew (Mohammed Abdellaoue, 60)
 
Goals:
[1-0] Postiga, 53
 
by Tom Kundert
 
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Comments (41)
Everybody Take A Deep Breath
41 Tuesday, 07 June 2011 14:49
I do find it amazing that fans boo CR7. He could have the worst game of his life, and he's still needed on the field because the opposition always has two people slanted his way. Keep in mind that a third pinches his way as soon as he gets the ball.
I thought that Nani had an awful game. I'm sorry but he was just bad.
I've killed C. Martins, but he wasn't that bad. He did lose the ball in a bad spot early, but otherwise far from his worst.
Moutinho was also average at best.
Meireles was fine, and I don't mind him bombing away as much as others do. Played well in my opinion.
I know that he scored, but I thought that Postiga was a no show for most of the game. He had two great opportunities to score early on, but his first touches failed him miserably. To be fair, his goal was a nice one, since there was a lot left to do after the cross. Good tenacity.
I know that people kill Almeida, and yes he's frustrating at times, but he's still our best striker and should be starting.
Postiga is not the answer.
Eduardo barely got any action, but he made the big save when he had to. I know that he had a rough year at Genoa, but maybe he will settle down and show his class.
Pepe, what can you say, he Brazilian but he should be our Captain.
Coentrao was his usual self, which is a good thing. I also thought that Perreira was fine. His crossing was lacking, but Nani's play good have hurt him.
Bruno Alves also showed well.

Let me add that all I wanted was a win, so I can;t go crazy about the overall play. Norway was never going to be easy since they only needed a draw.
Not a great game but not great supporters either
40 Tuesday, 07 June 2011 09:57
This team hasn't gelled yet like someone mentioned here before which is the reason why I think we saw what we saw...
As for Ronaldo being booed I believe is because some fans expect him to play as well as he plays for his club but what they forget is our national team is no Real Madrid. I understand the frustration 'cause I find myself expecting a lot from him as well. But I would never ever boo him so based on that and on the fact that at some point they were almost asleep in a game that was so important for Portugal I don't think they were that great supporters either. As a final note I think we will qualify for the next year's Euro but until we find that striker that we so badly need the chances of winning a major competition are rather small...
My 2 cents
39 Monday, 06 June 2011 21:56
@Nené/Goa
Sorry dude, I like Postiga but he's not even Klose.
Although the game itself wasn't particularly brilliant (neither was the opposition) I must say I was pretty upset with the fans booing Ronaldo, at some. What's up with that. You don't boo your own team. That for me was the lowest point of the game, if anything it's just counter-productive. Postiga's goal? Delicious, I tell you...
Bryan you are saying it is Benfica fans..
38 Monday, 06 June 2011 17:45
Truth is it is everybody but a couple that have told you that your assessment was wrong.. including Porto & Sporting fans..

It is because of comments like those that people think it is a bias and not an opinion.

Carlos Martins had a good game that is what everyone is trying to tell you, but your hatred for him has you seeing different.

At least when I hate on Quaresma I have some stats to point at that say he was bad. You tell me how many others had 2 shots on net that the goalkeeper had to save? They were both good.. Portugal only had 8 altogether.

I saw a lot of missed shots and bad ones.. by the others.

What has these people all riled up is that you are not listening to reason. If 95% of the people tell you you're wrong you will be wrong 95% of the time in that specific argument. Although the masses have been fooled sometimes.. this is not one of those cases.

Hey everyone makes mistakes.. admit it and move on.
Rui/Canada it's getting ridiculous
37 Monday, 06 June 2011 12:22
All I gave was my opinion about Martins and some of these Benfica fans are going insane over it.

Carlos Martins sucks. For the last time I'm not saying that just because I'm anti-benfica. If you look at my previous comments you'd know that because I mentioned that I'd rather have David Simao in there (who is another Benfica player). I'm saying Martins because that's what I perceive.

@ SLBTILLDEATH Coming on here and seeing people claiming I'm not a Portugal fan because I put down Carlos Martins? Look how many people put down Nani!!! But you don't see Sporting fans crying about that and claiming that "those haters are not portugal fans". For the record, I'm not switching back and why would I? I just had the privilege of watching my team come second in Europe. Braga deserves the fans it has and deserves more.
@ Justin in NY
36 Monday, 06 June 2011 11:59
you said we're in trouble because:

"Look at the other group leaders and check out how many goals these teams have scored. Germany-19, Italy-14, Netherlands-21, Spain 15."

you realize that all but Spain have played 1 more game, and are in 6 team groups (with that sixth extra team being the lowest ranked teams in europe)?? Portugal isn't in trouble at all. We had a terrible start and have now recovered to hold our destiny completely in our hands.

We all would have liked to pop more goals against Norway, but the reality is 3 pts was FAR more important than 3 goals. Norway was organized and played a disciplined defensive game. No shame in beating them 1-0.

Everyone needs to calm down. this was a GOOD result. enjoy it.
bryan/scb understands football and is a true fan
35 Monday, 06 June 2011 00:39
lol yea right the kid use to be for porto then switche dto braga next year he will bea porto fan again he said he switched because braga has heart o i guess porto won those trophies without heart notice how he only responds to benfica fans but when a porto fan puts him in his place he will never respond as we saw here point is martins had a good game good crosses beautiful long balls across the field so he did well but you will never see bryan/scb talk bad about nani lol point is he isnt a true fan who switches teams out of nowhere come on i have mny team tattoed on my arm dude more so your just and anti benfiquista and u use to hate on coentrao but then u realized he is better then every braga player so u shut the hell up when braga fills portugal CAM role then you can talk smack but for now the team is broken so it aint no need to fix it martins played well yesterday yes he lost the ball lik nani almost caused a serious counter attack for norway funny how bryan/scb didnt see that maybe he only watches portugal to hate on martins well hey bryan im not sure if your gonna be for porto nxt year but if i was a fan like u i would probably switch back to lol WOW WHAT A TRUE FAN U ARE once again this is our country playing so stop hating and lets support our country u think im gonna hate on miereles because he played for porto no if he plays well he plays well i wont bash him nani didnt have a great game but im not gonna bash him because he played for sporting and once again the only reason y silvio came on cause perriera was tired and all he did was just sit there for the last minutes but im not gonna bash him because he plays for Braga grow up kid get a life and support our country instead of hating the men who fight to make us happy but u cant appreiciate that u FAKE FAN
from Lisbon
34 Sunday, 05 June 2011 21:03
I won't get into anything too analytical since most everything has been discussed, but I'll just say that I was happy that the Seleccao won since it was the first time I've seen them play in person. It was an exciting game, although not always for the right reasons, ha. For instance, Portugal were really sloppy for the last 30 minutes or so and it was so tense watching Norway pump in free kicks because we only led 1-0. Not everyone looked great but I think they merely resembled a side that hasn't played together in over 2 months. There were numerous times that you could tell the players just weren't in synch and that had mostly to do with the fact they hadn't had much time to prepare. They also didn't play a midweek friendly before this game, which I think would've helped a lot.
About Ronaldo, I just think he is so concerned with doing well and playing to his potential that he doesn't realize he's doing too much. Someone mentioned that Messi has overcome this in his own game but I don't see that at all. For Cristiano, I just think he needs some confidence when he plays for Portugal, and it's hard when your own fans boo whenever you make a mistake. You could tell that he wanted to score badly, and you could feel his frustration when he didn't. Everyone just needs to have faith and support him, especially when he has a tough game, and maybe be thankful that he is Portuguese for once?
Vital win, however...
33 Sunday, 05 June 2011 19:59
This game was frustrating to watch for me. Statistically Portugal owned the game, but every time the Seleccao has made progress, there's always a performance that brings me down to reality. This was one of those games for me. As much as we attacked, this game reinforced the stigma that the Seleccao doesn't have a world class striker, and perhaps most importantly, lacks a true killer instinct. I'm not bashing Postiga, as he scored a very difficult goal, but it's clear up front is going to be our Achilles heel again. I really hope a decision is made as to who our striker is. We really need some chemistry upfront, so I would like to see Bento stick with someone. IMO, that should be Almeida. Postiga has all the skills in the world, but IMO he tends to disappear a lot and Almeida has the strength and physical presence that Postiga doesn't have. I think Postiga should be used as a sub.

As for Carlos Martins debate, I thought he did well. Not the greatest performance by any stretch, but really, who had a quality game? Pepe was MOTM for me, and perhaps Fabio with his usual go-getter attitude, but everyone else was average at best really. That brings me back to my original point. Portugal dominates, yet everyone was average.
Emotional issues
32 Sunday, 05 June 2011 19:09
These guys need to loosen up!!! Paulo take em out to the country side and have a hoot. Pray for internal peace and above all, disregard the Portuguese press. At the end of the day they must learn that losing a game is not the end of the world. Relax guys and enjoy life!!!. It's toooooo short.
Bryan is out in outer space on this one..
31 Sunday, 05 June 2011 18:51
Voice of Reason I found it quite hilarious how you rightfully lectured Bryan about his bias and then ironically you bring out your bias towards me.

Funny part is I agreed with everything in your post, and take things on a post by post basis. So clearly I am not as biased as the Voice of Reason.

Like I said your commentary on "this" game was spot on.. and I appreciated your commentary.

Some people arbitrarily pick on Bryan just for the sake of it also.. as he does with some others too.. it is as bias related as his attacks on Martins.

I prefer to pick on Bryan when he makes a post that is in my opinion wrong.. like this one.

I just don't use drive by commentary.. I usually walk up and shoot them in the head with my comments instead. It saves on innocent bystanders.
My take on the game..
30 Sunday, 05 June 2011 18:34
Not sure which game Bryan and Supremo were watching but it clearly wasn't the one we were watching. I watched with about 20 people very few Benfiquistas and they all thought the same, only one thought Martins wasn't playing well.

Martins played with energy and had a lot of dangerous crosses that were cut out by a much taller team. It is not about making every one it is about putting them in the area where our players have a chance to fight for them and win them. It is also about creating the pressure that leads to mistakes, especially against such a strong defensive aerial team like Norway.

In contrast I don't think CR made a cross that was good and Nani for the most part also was missing until he hit that sublime low cross which Postiga converted well. Same goes for Pereira, and Coentrao only got a few to work.

So besides Coentrao it was only Martins landing them or putting them into dangerous areas.

Sure he made a mistake or two.. besides Pepe and Eduardo... there was no others that were perfect.

Not to mention he had two shots on target that the GK had to dive across to save. I gave him an 8.5.

CR had by far his worst game since Bento took over... and besides a couple of glimmers he looked out of sorts most around me thought he was tired.. but I think the fact is he puts a lot of pressure on himself in these BIG MATCHES and then over-thinks things instead of running at full speed. Yesterday looked like he was playing in slow motion. I gave him a 7.5 on the back of those two good opportunities.

He would've scored half of the opportunities he had at club but over-thought and then wasted the opportunities, Messi was the same up until a couple of years ago. CR still has to overcome that hurdle.

As for Nani a lot are beating on him for his crosses... sure they were horrible until the assist but his link up work with others was exceptional so he wasn't all bad. I would give him an 8 on the back of the amazing assist.

Postiga too for the most part waved in and out of the game but in fairness to him, the supply line was weak at best and he is used to playing with a partner up front. Having two defenders crowd him will never make for an awe inspiring performance. Like some others have stated.. this guy like Gomes before him scores crucial goals for Portugal.. and should get some help and have a partner up front. I gave him an 8.5 based upon the amazing strike to get the goal. That shot wasn't as easy as it looked.

Pepe what can you say.. so many complained about him.. including most of the people I watched the game with but as the game wore on they could see what I was talking about. He was stellar, shut everything down made crucial plays that shut down the dangerous counter attack and for me was MOTM. A telling stat sometimes is Fouls Committed and Fouls Suffered to gauge a players play.. because if they are playing well they will be fouled and if they are out of position they too will foul. Pepe fouled 0 times but was fouled 3 times. I gave him a 9 for his performance.

Eduardo too was in excellent form someone said he only touched the ball twice but he stopped a couple of sure goals with his presence.. and he charged down some dangerous balls. I also gave him a 9.

Alves was one of the major holes and Norway went through him for their best opportunities. As I stated in the past if he has a good DM he is excellent but without it his pace and positioning hurt him. How Norway didn't capitalize on some of his gaffes I will never know. Anyways I feel for the guy he does try. I gave him a 6.5.

Meireles was the main reason Alves was exposed so much, let's face the facts he is a great midfielder slotted in behind the AM but as DM he is a nightmare.. he tries to cover too much ground in attacking and defending. It leads to huge holes and then he defends so poorly that it makes everything else so much worse. I hearken back to South Korea the last time I seen such pathetic DM work then Petit and I think Beto destroyed us. Sure against weak opposition Meireles can play the DM but against the top teams or strong defensive ones that counter.. he is a nightmare.. and should be rated - R for return to sender. 6.5

Coentrao who is usually excellent on D was also dragged into the DM mess early and was caught out twice before he made the adjustment and then improved. He for me looked tired and didn't have one of his better games, but you could see he was fighting through it and used his brain to compensate and by the end was one of the better players for sure. A real fighter.. 8.5

Pereira too had his worst game for Bento his passing was horrible but the link up play with Nani was good and his defending was decent and sometimes that is all you need with too many attackers. Just someone to defend. 7.5

Then we get to Moutinho who most in the room I was in thought he had an atrocious game.. and I could definitely see what they were talking about.. half of the game was just that brutal, but he also peppered in a high work rate and some decent passes. I think because he ended so poorly that was the last thing left in the mind of everyone watching. 7.5

As for the subs I had some issues with Bento.

In my mind I was thinking guarantee the game at that point.. I wanted Varela in for Postiga early to run onto balls.. I was thinking bring in Rolando for Martins.. slide Pepe to DM to solidify the middle and negate the counter attack. Then you have one sub left to play with either for more D or more attack.. In this case it might have been attack.. so I would've brought on either Almeida to sit next to Varela or Danny to take over the wheelhouse in the middle.. with Moutinho going off.

Bento was thinking total offence and against good teams that could be of concern.. although Norway definitely were just trying to not allow more and counter.

I would've liked to see Varela on earlier because he is a very smart player and you could see that when he was on making the smart move not the flashy one with some great passes.. something both Nani and CR could learn from, but he doesn't defend great and that was also on evidence at times.. although he did try to defend.. something also N & CR can learn.

Micael didn't do much although he did commit 2 fouls... and Silvio who I like I just thought was the wrong guy to bring on. He played as FB/Winger/Striker as he was running into the box on the offence looking for a pass. It made me quite nervous actually knowing the holes that were at the back.. and how great Norway counters.. fortunately Norway pulled off Carew by that point as he loves to attack from Silvio's side.

But none of that is really Silvio's fault that is the type of player he is.. I just thought it was a weird selection by Bento, especially when the kid is trying to get a huge deal in Europe.. of course he is going to try to score.. in the Team sense it might not have been the best move.

Fortunately for us.. Bento is still the man when it comes to qualifying.. so he can do whatever he wants.. as long as it works.. I will grumble and bow to his genius because paper results are not the same as actual game results. Something Queiroz could learn from.

Overall team wise Portugal played pretty smart and didn't allow too many free kicks and even better they only gave up one corner it was very astute move as a group.

Forca Portugal the challenge next is Cyprus away.. not an easy task at all considering the oppositions record of making life extremely difficult for top teams on their turf. This is where history shows that Portugal stumbles over confidently against the minnows.
Bento right on the mark
29 Sunday, 05 June 2011 17:42
First of all - we should all be happy with the win, it was first and foremost. Sometimes you win pretty, sometimes you win ugly - there have been more than enough pretty losses over the last 10 + years, that we should be happy with the win. I like Bento's quote - we played a good game, not a great one.

If we are being objective the only player that had a great game was Pepe - the fact that he made Carew a non-factor shows how great he was. Eduardo was great when he had to be - but it wasn't particularly busy for him. Coentrao was once again, very very good - but he lacked a bit when we got down close to Norway's goal.

Everyone else was just "good" - including Carlos Martins. I don't watch every liga game, so I don't really have any biases for or against anyone. What I saw yesterday was a guy who worked his butt off - left every single bit of himself on the field and actually had a good attempt at goal.

Guys this is supposed to be our national team - bringing your liga biases in assessments of players performances is just plain wrong.

Bryan SCB - did you get any joy out of watching the game? Your assessment of Martins' performance reads like you only watched him and noted every single misstep. Kinda sad if you ask me - the guy is putting on a jersey for the country you claim to support...your country. Give the guy a break, he may play for a club team you hate, but he plays for your country...or do you come from the "country of Braga FC"? (which to my knowledge isn't part of the European Union).

Seriously guy, you are sounding more and more like Orlando Mac/Supreme Gino with each post.

As for Supreme Gino - saying Nani was the best crosser pretty much sums up his match assessments. Nani was a threat down the wing for sure, but his crosses and decision making were below his normal standards. He made the cross on the one goal, but the rest of his game was just "okay".

Look, yesterday's game wasn't a brilliant performance - but there are lessons to be learned.

1) the thing I liked most was that the team stayed together - they didn't lose their heads when they were being frustrated in the first half, I think we have seen a few meltdowns in the past. The players kept their cool and their composure and kept working the game plan - to stay patient.

2) in game adjustments - the strategy changed in the second half. Crosses, like on Postiga's goal were along the ground, with players trying to get in deeper and closer to goal, rather than high crosses that weren't working the first half.

3) Selections - I admit that I was a bit surprised that Postiga got the call, and Martins for that matter, but it speaks to the depth of squad Bento feels he has. It is a good thing when there is a surprise of two - it keeps everyone sharp and shows that you come to training to work. Also, I liked that Bento got Micael some quality minutes - if this guy is going to be part of our future, he needs to get quality minutes in pressure games...so big time kudos to Bento for seeing that.

Bryan you can choose to be miserable about yesterday's game because a player from your most hated team played...I'll just enjoy the win and look forward to Cyprus.
say
28 Sunday, 05 June 2011 17:05
got to say it was probably the most boring game. they did too much passing and not enough pace which i love portugal usually doing. but it is understandable considering norway wanted to do counter attack so they let portugal have the ball and defend.

most of the plays came from nani/periera probably all part of plan considering CR usually gets crowded out to be playmaker. but thats what made it bit boring. during the iceland, spain and argentina matches CR was the playmeker and portugal did a lot of one touch passing but with pace and speed so the games were exciting. but yesterday's game slowed down a lot and they were trying to do too many passes infront of the goal. just shoot the ball.

i am just they won and are at top of the table.
still in it
27 Sunday, 05 June 2011 16:33
Big game pressure,afraid to make mistakes,but a great result,Portugal took the foot of the gas after Postigas goal/Nani had bad moments after setting up the winning goal.CR7 lower his standards trying hard being a team player,portugal looked slow and getting beat to many fifty fifty balls,thebest is yet to come go for it Lusitanos.
Were in trouble
26 Sunday, 05 June 2011 15:58
Look at the other group leaders and check out how many goals these teams have scored. Germany-19, Italy-14, Netherlands-21, Spain 15. Those are just the group leaders too, their are other teams that have scored 15 or so goals as well. Portugal has scored 11 goals and quite frankly that is not enough. I understand we have a fantastic defensive team but time and time again the teams that score win tournaments. We desperately need a better target man up top. Postiga is not a class player to be our forward. Until we develop a solid forward portugal will continue to battle for 3rd and 4th place in tournaments. Ronaldo and nani can score goals for us but unless ronaldo stays humble and stops shooting from 40 yards away or from angles that are almost impossible to score we will struggle. I see a lot of people are saying bad things about martins and I personally don't like him that much. However, in all honesty I don't know who else can play that role on this team right now. Is their anyone else that could maybe get called up? He had some nice passes to the outside wingers and that is when we are the most dangerous. I have said before on this forum that sometimes moutinho and meireles force to many one time passes and shots but they cleaned that up a little bit. Ronaldo did not play well and anyone saying that he did must not have seen what I saw. He looked tired and not interested in the game. It seems like sometimes when he plays for portugal he just turns into CR7 and does not stay humble. He got to the level he is at now because he works so hard but when he plays for portugal sometimes he thinks he is bigger then the team. I am not saying he always does this but I am sure you guys know what I mean.
Enjoy the win, Ignore the trolls...
25 Sunday, 05 June 2011 15:44
Did you guys really expect anything else? Martins could score the gamewinner and have a dominate game, and the trolls and haters would still have something to say... Just a pathetic and childish anti-Benfica thing...
SLBTILLDEATH your still here?
24 Sunday, 05 June 2011 14:41
I thought you vanished. When Braga eliminated Benfica seems like you took a 2 month vacation lolz. Good to see you.

@ Mark, Hugo Viana is not a CAM, he's a defensive mid as is Custodio. How on earth you think it's the same thing I don't understand. However, I'll keep saying it Mossoro would be playing if he was Portuguese. Carlos Martins is a serious joke and almost cost us the game with his turnovers. It's practically impossible to sit and defend Martins.

Of course, the extreme Benfica fans will deny deny and deny because he plays for Benfica but the truth remains. Carlos Martins consistently is the worst player on the field for Portugal. How biased can you guys be? I'm not hating on him because he's Benfica I'm hating because he sucks. Plain and simple. I would much rather have David Simao in there instead and I've already said that. Sure he lacks experience but he's more mobile.

I completely disagree with Mdot who is claiming Martins is "reliable" because you can't count on Martins to do anything besides take up space or lose the ball when you need it the most. I would argue he's unreliable. He hasn't done anything of value to the team at all.

We really miss Deco in the CAM role, and it showed last night. I'm just hoping somebody steps up from here ( Micael Machado or Danny) and I'm betting that Carlos Martins hasn't convinced Bento either since Martins was the first to exit the game. If Micael or Danny don't step up I wouldn't mind Marcio Mossoro taking up portuguese citizenship like Liedson did. We need an CAM with vision, speed and energy and unfortunately we won't be getting that from Martins. After seeing that embarrassing performance by Martins, I wouldn't mind seeing a 33 year old Deco back in action.
Good win
23 Sunday, 05 June 2011 13:17
Overall the team played good and deserved this much needed win. At first I was worried when they signed Bento but he's turning out to be a great coach for us and I'm enjoying the team he's building. I agree that the idea of a Denmark/Norway draw would give us a great buffer.

Some trolls have hate on Martins because he's from Benfica. He may not be the best player in the world but the team has done well with him in the mid-field. Hell I remember BryanSCB on here bashing Fabio being called up and eventually people stopped paying attention to him and he moved on to his next Benfica target. Martins did well when we demolished Spain and he's added value to the team every game. He's not the star player but he's reliable and we need players like that on our squad.
I'm Not the only
22 Sunday, 05 June 2011 13:03
Bryan i must have read 4 other posts that guys have said the same thing that Nani was horrible. Portugal was lucky to get that goal because we keeping playing the way we did were going to lose to the bigger teams. Its funny you come after me and not anyone else because i'm a Benfiquista. Also Hugo Vianna that is so great for Braga why doesn't he get called up and take Martins place lol. I'm not saying Martins is the greatest but he is not horrble he had 3 solid shoots on net were as Meireles's shoots were all over the place, so stop hating Benfica players and watch the game.
bryan/scb
21 Sunday, 05 June 2011 12:50
okay martins had a poor game by what your saying to me he was actually okay yes he fell damn he must be the first person in history to do that but did anyone see those midfield long balls to ronaldo or nani and fabio coentrao with perfect ai giving plenty of spaces to thos players or that great little bal lwide for coentrao to make a cross in which he did and ronaldo almost scored lets not forget how well he and nani was working i mean ronaldo took bad shots exceot for the free kick took to long n the ball when he could have shot nani was making horrible passes almost costing usbut bryan/scb doesnt realize that there is 11 players on a team but he only sees one benfica player and that is martins ill admit he would be better off the bench but damn if bento wants him starting that let that be the case he is a hard worker and didnt have a horrifici game by the way you are putting it you only display his negatives when he had some positivesjust come on dude this is our country were supporting let the coach do what he wants and just live with it and you cant say if mossoro was fro mportugal we wouldnt have a problem because he sin t from portugal if Falcao was from portugal we would score a lot if Hulk was from portugal we would be better if Maxi perriera was from portugal we wouldnt have a problem with right back lol bryan/scb we cant say thing sliek that because there not from portugal
mikeFCP
20 Sunday, 05 June 2011 12:39
yea its funny he doesnt even talk about the game or any other player he just goes straight to carlos martins he isnt a real football fan he is an anti benfiquista even when the portugal team has nothing to do with clubs and we should support every player he just keeps hating on Benfica but hey we cant do anything about that BRYAN/SCB just needs to realize our nacional team gives there all for us it doesnt matter which team they play on we just have to support what the coach does he just needs to grow up
@ Mark/Benfiquista
19 Sunday, 05 June 2011 12:34
Nani was the reason Portugal won. His cross got us the goal we needed. Besides that goal, he was dangerous on the wing and worked well with Pereira. There was one shot that he fired that could have gone in the top left corner. Also, he was stepping up Postiga time and time again and Postiga would get in the area but lose the ball. Unlike Martins, Postiga would be crowded and lose it. Martins would trip over himself and give the ball back to Norway.

What the hell did Martins do so well? If I remember correctly he couldn't even hold the ball. He kept losing it and forcing Portugal to stop a dangerous counter attack. Moreover, he can't carry the ball either. He kept on tripping and falling. He's horrible. I would actually argue that I'm now worried more about the CAM position then the striker role. I can't believe that we miss Deco so much but it's true. We miss Deco.

For the guy that claims Martins is better than any Braga player? Dude, if Marcio Mossoro was portuguese we wouldn't have a CAM problem to begin with.
satisfactory
18 Sunday, 05 June 2011 10:56
Not a great performance, but just about enough to get the 3 points we so badly needed.

I'm in the Nani had a poor game camp - his decision making is just terrible sometimes and the he kept giving the ball away but at least he done something positive and got the assist, so we'll let him off on this ocassion.

I thought Ronaldo was disappointing by his very, very high standards but I wouldn't say he had a bad game.

Postinka....I thought he struggled to get into the game and I thought a more physical presence would have been better suited to playing against the likes of Hangeland. But he scored an excellent goal and yeah, like Nene said, maybe he can be our Klose or David Healy - Rubbish at club level but a genius playing for their country.

I think its too early to say we are on our way to the Euros, the group is still tight and the last game away in Denmark will be huge.

In the honeymoon period under Bento we beat Iceland and Denmark easily and thrashed Spain but our recent performances haven't been as good so I still think there is a lot of work to do to get to Poland & Ukraine.
one step closer to Euro 2012
17 Sunday, 05 June 2011 04:55
I liked most of what i saw tonight but there were somethings that didnt feel right:
PLAYER RATING
Pepe 10 This guy is improving all the time,Jomo effect

Alves 8 played soild, every ball in the air he owned

Nani 6 other then that cross for the only goal Nani looked terrible! duno if he is doubting himself after being left on the bench against Barca

Postiga 8 disappeared for a bit but made something from nothing to score and give Portugal 3 massive points.I prefer Postiga over Hugo because he is more mobile

João Pereira 7 looked ok but there is room for improvement

Eduardo - touched the ball twice

Ronaldo 7 free kicks were dangerous,some good runs but CR7 looked tired


Coentrao 8 always plays with his heart! good luck at Real!

Carlos Martins 6 should not be starting ,he didnt impose himself at all

Raul Meireles 7 made some good connecting passes but wastes opportunities by shooting from no mans land frequently

João Moutinho 7 played good but not great. Portugal needs a play maker like Rui Costa hopefully Moutinho can be a proper # 10
We'll take it
16 Sunday, 05 June 2011 03:55
I was surprised with the choice of Postiga over Almeida. I think Almeida would have been the better choice. Postiga got one but choked on two beautiful through balls in the first half.

Did anybody else notice that Bento looked like a crack head on the sidelines? Any update on Carvalho's injury?
SupremoGino
15 Sunday, 05 June 2011 03:34
What game were you watching because Martins played well and like the commentators, and some other people posted Nani did nothing his shoots were all deflected or blocked pass' were off it looked as if he was trying to hard and that is why he was subbed.
Postiga the fox in the box
14 Sunday, 05 June 2011 01:39
I'm surprised no one has mentioned how badly Nani played, he misplaced so many passes. I think Micael should have started instead of Martins and Varela should have been brought on earlier. Ronaldo was poor as well he shouldn't be captain someone like B.Alves or Carvalho should be. It annoys me that they haven't got the bottle to sub/not play Ronaldo when he's underperforming just because its Ronaldo, no player is bigger than the team. End of rant. Time for another Sagres.
Decent game
13 Sunday, 05 June 2011 01:11
Portugal were alright but with the amount of time they spent in Norway's half I would've expected more than one goal. Nice goal by Postiga, he comes up with crucial goals and is a better finisher than Almeida but the thing about him is that he becomes invisible for long stretches (something Almeida doesnt do nearly as often) so if hes not scoring then hes usually not doing anything. Next game I would insert Danny instead of Martins and put up as a centre attacking midfielder because Portugal lacked the final product today.
3 points
12 Saturday, 04 June 2011 23:46
It wasn't perfect, but we got the job done. I am not the biggest fan of Postiga, but he seems to always play well for the seleccao. It was a very difficult shot, but it was a clinical finish. Ronaldo wasn't terrible, but he definitely had an off game. Nani had his ups and down too, but his crossing was usually good.

Moutinho, Martins, and Meireles completely controlled the tempo, and played some beautiful soccer, but they lacked the cutting edge in the final third (something Danny would give them).

Pereira could have been better going forward, but he defended pretty well. Coentrao was great going forward, but he was caught out of position a few times. Alves was solid and Pepe was brilliant. Pepe and Postiga were the men of the match.
San Francisco, USA
11 Saturday, 04 June 2011 23:40
When they did the starting line-up, I commended Bento for starting Postiga. For both form and the chance of a real striker's finish, there was nobody else in that position on the call-ups for this team that could deliver.

Nani was again far more dangerous than CR7, though he got tired late and made too many turnovers. CR7 ironically had problems being a little too unselfish, which I almost never say about him. Moutinho did quite well in driving a transition game - intercepting and sending the team in the opposite direction. I didn't think Martins was that terrible, save when he was on the wing. (But then I expect little from him.)

The fans seemed bored and should have been in it more. Pereira really needs to cross better than that, but he's still on of our best RB options. This team made me way too nervous for giving up the late goal, lacking the killer instincts and touch to finish Norway off.
GUY
10 Saturday, 04 June 2011 23:34
it was EURO 2004
Portugal's Chances
9 Saturday, 04 June 2011 23:19
alot of work still left to do for Portugal with max points the rest of the way assuring its qualification....

a draw in the next NOR/DEN would make it a bit easier although not by much since Portugal would still need to get a draw in Denmark....

that said, at least now Portugal controls its own destiny....

unless of course they decide to give away points again against Cyprus & Iceland....
Forca Portugal
8 Saturday, 04 June 2011 22:48
Good win, but we could've had more goals. What matters most though is the 3 points and going top of our group. I thought everyone played well today, but my MOTM was Pepe. He was a beast back there breaking numerous Norway counter-attacks. Norway to their credit played well too. They had a defensive game plan going and it nearly worked for them. I feared for the worst with a 0-0 HT scoreline, but thankfully we found the break through with a sweet goal from H.Postiga early in the second half. Three more qualifying games left, lets do this Portugal!
Match
7 Saturday, 04 June 2011 22:45
Boring when one team parks the bus.. We didn't play our best either.

The defence was fine. Alves got away with a certain penalty. Pepe made a BIG interception. I didnt see much of Pereira but Coentrao made runs forward on each opportunity good effort from him.

I think Moutinho had a great game.. solid in possession and great accuracy on the passes. Then again Martins was horrible. Most of his passes/shots were blocked and he lost the ball one too many times. He sucks plain and simple.

Nani was good, best crosser on the team imo. CR played well but not by his standards. Unlucky on the free kick/header but you can't say he didnt try. Postiga thanks for the goal but otherwise a flop.. common among portuguese strikers but that goal was crucial so thanks again.

The crowd was so dead. Cmon guys that was pathetic. We need real supporters at these games. I'm just thankful that we won and were back on top where we belong.
Postiga
6 Saturday, 04 June 2011 22:40
can he be our "Miroslav Klose"
Please forgive me Postiga
5 Saturday, 04 June 2011 22:34
I am very sorry Postiga. I feel like a donkey.I doubted you.I post Almeida as my forward man in my line up here.I am relay sorry My friend.I forgot how you bailed us out in euro 2006 against England.Please forgive me amigo.
Bryan
4 Saturday, 04 June 2011 22:22
I'm a Porto and Portugal fan and i dont care what team a play comes from leave the Benfica hating at home. C.Martins played a good game. Why do you have such a hard on for Benfica players dude. If you see something the Paulo Bento does not see you should be coaching the national team, there is a reason Martins is on the team because he plays better than any Braga player.

PS
Braga is done next year lol
Get in...
3 Saturday, 04 June 2011 22:12
...Euro 2012 here we come!
1st place ,Np doubt,
2 Saturday, 04 June 2011 22:11
after euro 2006 we can watch remaining matches in the campaign without any extra pressure.
Postiga is the man
1 Saturday, 04 June 2011 22:10
Carlos Martins with another horrible performance. He consistently loses the ball or trips on his own. Very disappointing!

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